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The False Promise of Democratic Socialism

The promise of democratic socialism is a free and easy life; the reality is a painful one. That promise is based on the false narrative that democratic socialist governments reduce income inequality by raising the living standards of people at the lower end of the scale, at no cost to them; all costs are covered by increased taxes levied on the super wealthy, people who are deemed to have “more money than they need”.

But the reality is that there are never enough wealthy people to cover the costs of “free” healthcare, “free” college, or any other national give-away program. (It Is Arithmetically Impossible to Fund The Progessive Agenda by Taxing the Rich) Consequently, income inequality is reduced by raising taxes across the board, thereby making everyone poorer.

Yet another reality of democratic socialism is that income inequality typically isn’t reduced, wealth is simply shifted from those who earned financial success to those who gained political power. In these instances, the bureaucrat class becomes the dictator of income distribution while those who were the primary targets of increased taxation strive to relocate to a country with less burdensome taxation, or achieve the political power needed to reduce their tax burden.

In countries that have successfully reduced income inequality through the use of taxation to redistribute wealth, the robbing from the rich and giving to the poor paradigm has proven unsustainable. According to an Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) report, Sweden, often hailed as a paragon of democratic socialism, “still belongs to the group of most equal OECD countries, despite a rapid surge of income inequality since the early 1990s.”

Democratic Socialists also hail Denmark as a shining example of “tax the rich, feed the poor”. Yet, Denmark in fact taxes the poor to feed the poor. According to an article published by the Acton Institute, “The government confiscates more than half of virtually all incomes. Low-income Danes pay an effective marginal tax rate of 56 percent; the middle class pay 57 percent.” That’s in addition to a 25% Value Added Tax that is collected on every item sold, and an 8100 krone ( $1,200) per year) ownership tax on pickup trucks.

Like traditional socialism, democratic socialism is akin to a monarchy in that a group of elites (the king and his court) determine how wealth is redistributed, if at all. Burdensome taxation is the most commonly used mechanism in spite of the fact that it has been conclusively proven that you can’t make a poor man rich by making a rich man poor. As history demonstrates, ultimately, it doesn’t matter whether monarchs or elected officials are confiscating their money, citizens revolt, either through violence, legislation, relocation or deception.
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
Did you write this yourself Sporter? Because the level of analysis, is pretty much at your level.

I also love how you emphasises taxes, but wilfully forget that these people can send their children to school and get hospital treatment. While in the US system, your income is less taxed, but a lot of families are struggling when they go to the doctor. Looking at taxes, without understanding that you also get something back from it, will never make you understand why nordic countries just do better then the US. Last time I checked, Denmark and Sweden were both higher up in the Human Development Index.

Also... the article Acton institute, also has an entire part saying:

Denmark is not socialist

The 20-page report notes that, by some measures, Denmark and the Nordic “socialist” countries have more economic freedom than the United States:

The Fraser Institute’s Economic Freedom of the World index ranks Denmark 16th (out of 162 countries). According to the Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom, Denmark (ranked 12th out of 180 countries) ranks higher than the US (18th). Denmark generally ranks high on regulation, protection of private property, fighting corruption, flexibility of the labor market and trade, but ranks low on taxes and public spending, which are very high in Denmark compared to other countries.

“The high level of economic freedom is an explanation for the relatively high level of income in Denmark, in spite of the high level of taxes and the big welfare state,” the report states.

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SOURCE: https://www.acton.org/publications/transatlantic/2019/01/17/denmark-american-leftists-were-not-socialist

So no... it's not like traditional socialism. That's why people outside the democratic socialist label, don't like this type of watered down socialism where the aim is to create a leveled playing field and to decrease inequality. But you couldn't help yourself by going:

Like traditional socialism, democratic socialism is akin to a monarchy in that a group of elites (the king and his court) determine how wealth is redistributed, if at all. [...]

But hey... one day Sporter, one day when you are no longer around to witness it, the average IQ of humanity will jump up with 2 full points.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 asked
Did you write this yourself Sporter?

LOL!!! Like a toddler, sunstroke can barely string 3 words together. Plagiarism is all she's got. She didn't even read what she posted; that's why she can't respond to questions about it🤣😂

Here is the source she plagiarized.
https://cuttothe-chase.com/?p=1420
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 Oh the joys of socialism, just look at the dozens of articles to choose from....

Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 The Acton institute article is pretty weird... but even in their onesidededness, they at least accept that democratic socialists OR social democracy isn't the same as socialism. Even though some have socialism as a long haul endgoal... And in Denmark and Sweden they have a lot of brands, no worries, you don't have to miss your Pabst Blue Ribbon sporter...
@sunsporter1649 Actually, the article you posted but didn't read is about Democratic Socialism. Am I gonna have to spoon-feed you YOUR OWN article???

Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden are generally considered exemplars of democratic socialism. Care to show us the insides of their supermarkets??
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@ElwoodBlues I'm pretty sure these countries are more linked to a welfare state... that can either be claimed by "social democracy" or a Catholic interpretation of harmony through a form of corporatism. This "democratic socialist" label, is pretty deceiving for the current proposals... or comparissons to nordic and west-european countries.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Kwek00 And everyone knows a bigot is someone who wins an argument with a left-wing nut-job marxist
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 Just like google isn't a source, this isn't an argument... it's a picture.