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BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
Would the UN win against America 🤔🤔🤔
I doubt it 🤪🤪🤪
I doubt it 🤪🤪🤪
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 Absolutely they would. Trump stopping food going to food pantries, red states are having hard times as per their own citizens. A lot of Trump's policies are hurting people financially. Tourism is almost non existent and we lost all the immigrant money due to ice.
So yup. Plus all the resources are naturally made in other countries, we are consumers so we don't have much bargaining power.
We would have bargaining power with a few policy changes but Trump stopped that.
So yup. Plus all the resources are naturally made in other countries, we are consumers so we don't have much bargaining power.
We would have bargaining power with a few policy changes but Trump stopped that.
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
@SatanBurger 🤔 so, a Country that has a Military that is bigger than ALL the UN Members put together, is going to lose a War right 🙄🙄🙄
What a shame, losing all that ILLEGAL immigration money to ICE ... ICE, people that are protecting America
Most, if not all Countries, fall into line when Americas buying power kicks in
So, a hypothetical situation is that America imposes sanctions that will cause Countries to lose BILLIONS, then the biggest Military in the history of the World steps in to win the War ... that sounds like a WIN WIN for America to me 🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂ ... 🤪🤪🤪
What a shame, losing all that ILLEGAL immigration money to ICE ... ICE, people that are protecting America
Most, if not all Countries, fall into line when Americas buying power kicks in
So, a hypothetical situation is that America imposes sanctions that will cause Countries to lose BILLIONS, then the biggest Military in the history of the World steps in to win the War ... that sounds like a WIN WIN for America to me 🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂ ... 🤪🤪🤪
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 You don't protect America by threatening people, just the other day ice pointed guns at a drive thru. The amount of force is having unnecessary victims, no way.
America is on its last leg to holding onto power. Trump has rolled back scientific advancement by messing with cancer research and institutions of higher learning. You can't do that and claim you got a strong country.
Other countries have living wages, 4 day working weeks, low cost public transportation. Other countries are leading in scientific achievements and other advancements. All of this can be observed
America is on its last leg to holding onto power. Trump has rolled back scientific advancement by messing with cancer research and institutions of higher learning. You can't do that and claim you got a strong country.
Other countries have living wages, 4 day working weeks, low cost public transportation. Other countries are leading in scientific achievements and other advancements. All of this can be observed
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 America made slavery big time and more advanced with what we did at the time. So we ended slavery but we also created it too plus displaced or murdered 1000s of people for our slavery practices.
Not only that but we created generational poverty and whine when we try to make things better during modern times.
We say that black people get hired due to dei even though dei benefited white veterans and women too. But we assume that every black person or immigrant who gets hired as being a dei hired which is a racist dog whistle as suggesting they can't do their jobs and that you, as a white person can do it better via dunning kruger effect.
Trump knocked down black veteran memorials and knocked down discrimination protections for multiple groups. Conservatives banned tons of black authors in schools and revised or covered up slavery exhibitions at museums.
So I dunno why you even being up the fact we ended slavery, it still exists in wage slavery as well as not being able to afford health or basic necessities makes one slaves.
And if there had been no push back, we might still have it so we didn't end slavery because we felt bad. Just like what Britain did with India.
Not only that but we created generational poverty and whine when we try to make things better during modern times.
We say that black people get hired due to dei even though dei benefited white veterans and women too. But we assume that every black person or immigrant who gets hired as being a dei hired which is a racist dog whistle as suggesting they can't do their jobs and that you, as a white person can do it better via dunning kruger effect.
Trump knocked down black veteran memorials and knocked down discrimination protections for multiple groups. Conservatives banned tons of black authors in schools and revised or covered up slavery exhibitions at museums.
So I dunno why you even being up the fact we ended slavery, it still exists in wage slavery as well as not being able to afford health or basic necessities makes one slaves.
And if there had been no push back, we might still have it so we didn't end slavery because we felt bad. Just like what Britain did with India.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 The transatlantic slave trade, the one that shaped modern racism and the Americas was driven and profited from mostly by European colonial powers and not black people. That's a fundamental fact of modern day slavery.
Another fact is that it createdv generational poverty. Most of the money in America is inherited.
Exactly. That’s why, during the Southern Strategy, many of the segregationist Democrats switched to the Republican Party as the Democrats began appealing more to Black and other nonwhite voters
Another fact is that it createdv generational poverty. Most of the money in America is inherited.
We ended Slavery in the Civil War AND because Democrats were RACIST in not wanting Slavery to end, THEY caused the deaths of an estimated 600,000 people
Exactly. That’s why, during the Southern Strategy, many of the segregationist Democrats switched to the Republican Party as the Democrats began appealing more to Black and other nonwhite voters
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 That’s a misleading way to tell the story.
— Yes, some African polities participated in capturing and selling people, but European demand, shipping networks, colonial law, and plantation economies scaled slavery into the racially based, hereditary chattel system we associate with the Atlantic world.
— Quinine (from cinchona bark) was known in South America before Europeans adopted it; it helped Europeans survive in some tropical areas, but it isn’t the reason the trade existed.
— And modern slavery is a global problem driven by today’s political and economic conditions — not a simple continuation of “who invented” slavery.
— Yes, some African polities participated in capturing and selling people, but European demand, shipping networks, colonial law, and plantation economies scaled slavery into the racially based, hereditary chattel system we associate with the Atlantic world.
— Quinine (from cinchona bark) was known in South America before Europeans adopted it; it helped Europeans survive in some tropical areas, but it isn’t the reason the trade existed.
— And modern slavery is a global problem driven by today’s political and economic conditions — not a simple continuation of “who invented” slavery.
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
@SatanBurger there is so much wrong in what you've just said
It has only been recently that Slavery was twisted into a racial issue by DEMOCRATS, because they want a CONSTANT/ PERMANENT victim class who would vote for them
I also find it completely offensive that Slavery has been hijacked by the Blacks, as if it was ONLY them that suffered slavery
EVERY ethnicity in the history of the Workd has suffered slavery at some point
Slavery - CREATED by Blacks and Arabs, once something is created, it can't be created AGAIN 🙄🙄🙄
... actually read what i said, i'm fully aware that South Americans knew of its properties, but it took Europeans to IDENTIFY, DEVELOP and APPLY that to create Quinine, so that we could go into the interior and take slaves ourselves
Who's blaming an 'entire continent' 🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂
Within that continent, there would have to be victims that get forced into Slavery by raids from other tribes
... but if an entire continent is to blame, i'm quite happy to blame an entire continent ... again, quite simple logic really
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NO ... modern day slavery is NOT a global problem, as there's no such think as Slavery in the West or any other 1st World Country ... it IS a problem STILL in shithole countries where it STARTED, i believe it was in some African countries that slavery was ONLY outlawed in the 1960's ... yes, you read that right, 1960's, not 1860's
People being poor is NOT slavery, it's people being poor
There's plenty of misleading going on, but it's YOU that's doing it, not ME
It has only been recently that Slavery was twisted into a racial issue by DEMOCRATS, because they want a CONSTANT/ PERMANENT victim class who would vote for them
I also find it completely offensive that Slavery has been hijacked by the Blacks, as if it was ONLY them that suffered slavery
EVERY ethnicity in the history of the Workd has suffered slavery at some point
Slavery - CREATED by Blacks and Arabs, once something is created, it can't be created AGAIN 🙄🙄🙄
... actually read what i said, i'm fully aware that South Americans knew of its properties, but it took Europeans to IDENTIFY, DEVELOP and APPLY that to create Quinine, so that we could go into the interior and take slaves ourselves
Who's blaming an 'entire continent' 🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂🤷🏼♂
Within that continent, there would have to be victims that get forced into Slavery by raids from other tribes
... but if an entire continent is to blame, i'm quite happy to blame an entire continent ... again, quite simple logic really
AND
NO ... modern day slavery is NOT a global problem, as there's no such think as Slavery in the West or any other 1st World Country ... it IS a problem STILL in shithole countries where it STARTED, i believe it was in some African countries that slavery was ONLY outlawed in the 1960's ... yes, you read that right, 1960's, not 1860's
People being poor is NOT slavery, it's people being poor
There's plenty of misleading going on, but it's YOU that's doing it, not ME
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@BigGuy2 1. “Democrats invented racial slavery.”
That’s historically false. Racialized slavery long predates the modern Democratic Party (founded in the 1820s). The racial element of slavery developed in the 15th–17th centuries when European empires justified the enslavement of Africans using race as a marker of inferiority.
That ideology laid the foundation for modern racism, not U.S. party politics centuries later.
2. “Every group suffered slavery, so stop focusing on Black slavery.”
While true that slavery existed in many cultures, the transatlantic slave trade was uniquely racialized and intergenerational, targeting Africans explicitly because of skin color and creating systems that persisted for centuries. Recognizing that isn’t “hijacking” it’s being accurate about which form of slavery shaped the modern world.
3. “Blacks and Arabs created slavery.”
No group “created” slavery. The oldest recorded examples come from ancient Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome, China, and elsewhere, long before any African or Arab empires existed
4. “Quinine let us take slaves ourselves.”
Quinine helped Europeans survive tropical disease during colonial conquest centuries later, but the slave trade thrived long before quinine was isolated (it was first extracted in 1820 — the British abolished their slave trade in 1807).
The timeline alone disproves that claim.
5. “No modern slavery in the West.”
False. Modern slavery includes human trafficking, forced labor, and sexual exploitation, which exist in every region, including Western nations. The U.S., U.K., and EU have all prosecuted cases in recent years.
That’s historically false. Racialized slavery long predates the modern Democratic Party (founded in the 1820s). The racial element of slavery developed in the 15th–17th centuries when European empires justified the enslavement of Africans using race as a marker of inferiority.
That ideology laid the foundation for modern racism, not U.S. party politics centuries later.
2. “Every group suffered slavery, so stop focusing on Black slavery.”
While true that slavery existed in many cultures, the transatlantic slave trade was uniquely racialized and intergenerational, targeting Africans explicitly because of skin color and creating systems that persisted for centuries. Recognizing that isn’t “hijacking” it’s being accurate about which form of slavery shaped the modern world.
3. “Blacks and Arabs created slavery.”
No group “created” slavery. The oldest recorded examples come from ancient Mesopotamia, Greece, Rome, China, and elsewhere, long before any African or Arab empires existed
4. “Quinine let us take slaves ourselves.”
Quinine helped Europeans survive tropical disease during colonial conquest centuries later, but the slave trade thrived long before quinine was isolated (it was first extracted in 1820 — the British abolished their slave trade in 1807).
The timeline alone disproves that claim.
5. “No modern slavery in the West.”
False. Modern slavery includes human trafficking, forced labor, and sexual exploitation, which exist in every region, including Western nations. The U.S., U.K., and EU have all prosecuted cases in recent years.
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
@SatanBurger NOPE, they didn't, enslavement of all ethnic minorities stems from Economics, not along racial lines, never has been until the Democrats changed that, it has always been an Economic issue, ask Thomas Sewell 🙄🙄🙄
It wasn't Centuries later, but the point i'm making there is, is that the Blacks were fully complicit in the Slave trade because Westerners didn't go into the interior due to fears of catching Malaria, it was when Quinine was developed for Westerners as a remedy to Malaria, that they started taking slaves themselves, cutting out the middleman, obviously you haven't heard the famous interaction with the King of Dahoma and the British Empire
"Do whatever you want with us, but leave my Slave Trade alone" - he was earning £250,000 per year from it and that's a late 1700's figure
What you'll find is that it was the Arabs, so what was known as Mesopotamia etc etc
Actually read what i'm saying rather than you just cut and pasting snippets of information from the internet, your comments on Quinine bear no relation to my comments about Quinine
You're citing information about modern slavery in the West, but even after a cursory search, i've found that it's predominantly stemming from OUTSIDE the West... INTO the West 🙄🙄🙄
It wasn't Centuries later, but the point i'm making there is, is that the Blacks were fully complicit in the Slave trade because Westerners didn't go into the interior due to fears of catching Malaria, it was when Quinine was developed for Westerners as a remedy to Malaria, that they started taking slaves themselves, cutting out the middleman, obviously you haven't heard the famous interaction with the King of Dahoma and the British Empire
"Do whatever you want with us, but leave my Slave Trade alone" - he was earning £250,000 per year from it and that's a late 1700's figure
What you'll find is that it was the Arabs, so what was known as Mesopotamia etc etc
Actually read what i'm saying rather than you just cut and pasting snippets of information from the internet, your comments on Quinine bear no relation to my comments about Quinine
You're citing information about modern slavery in the West, but even after a cursory search, i've found that it's predominantly stemming from OUTSIDE the West... INTO the West 🙄🙄🙄
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