This came up on Secular Talk and I think Kyle is right. Blue states should consider a national divorce. Can you honestly still present a single

@whowasthatmaskedman That is mostly cliches from the cold war. And that is also factually wrong. Once Tito died the US crashed their economy intentionally. They then passed a bill that made it so that the constituent republics were required to declare independence to qualify for debt relief. For ideological reasons they could not allow a socialist country in Europe to continue. Period. They also had the CIA handing out literal duffel bags of cash to every far right lunatic in the country.

Check out "To kill a Nation" by Dr. Michael Perenti. He lays it out with receipts.

The point I was making is that the United States has alot of sectarian bullshit to exploit and this time it is being done entirely domestically.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I will look up the book. But certainly agree with the last comment. In fact I think it is a factor in America having so few friends now..😷

@whowasthatmaskedman To Kill a Nation is a lecture. You can find it on Youtube. Can't recall the title but the former CIA station chief for Yugoslavia also wrote a book on how they were handing out cash to literally every nutcase in the country including terrorist organizations like the KLA. His book is banned for sale in the USA. I think Perenti references the book in the lecture.

But it was all first put into motion by Bush Sr. I doubt it is a coincidence that Bush was a former CIA head.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow imagine passing thru border security 20 times driving coast to coast or by rail

@1490wayb A national divorce would not be every blue state becoming a statelet. Many are a solid continuous mass along the Canadian border.

And 50 tiny statelets is what will likely happen anyway. The US is currently going down the path of 1990s USSR.

@1490wayb And I use blue state as more of a short hand. States with more progressive ideas and views. That are not necessarily reflected by Gerrymandering districts and the results of that.