Well, despite the "ceasefire" Israel continues to bombard Gaza overnight and shows no signs of stopping.

@pdockal No

@wishforthenight

Of course you can't as they don't exist

@pdockal wtaf? You don’t think Hamas are holding any hostages??

@wishforthenight

WTF ?

@pdockal it's a straight forward question. And I'm interested in the answer too. Is it that you think all the hostages are dead?

@pdockal you just said the hostages don’t exist

@wishforthenight
@ekwalizur

i was referring to your inability to post reports that Israel isnt adhering to the cease fire
of course Hamas took civilians (women & children) as Hostages & killed some of them in captivity

I guess I misread your reply only addressed the 2nd question not the first

@pdockal so you don’t believe me

@wishforthenight

no i dont believe you
is BBC the only news outlet with these reports ?
is only one person stating this (as you indicated)

@pdockal It's fine. Well, clearly you don't believe one of the most respected journalistic organisations in the world, so there is no hope for you. Naturally you would believe them if the ceasefire was holding (which it might actually be now)

@wishforthenight

i dont believe one report from only one witness
also reality says that cease fires arent "perfect"
just because diplomats sign/agree doesnt mean the those in the fields get the orders @ that exact moment
or they cant confirm the orders & keep fighting
or they perceive a threat from the other side & keep fighting

@pdockal All you believe is that Israel are blameless. That much is obvious.

@wishforthenight

of course
terrorists have no place is society
im NOT going to give you a history lesson because your not interested
but suffice it to say taking civilians (women & children) hostages is wrong no matter your motives
you cant justify Hamas actions no matter what Israel or other countires do

@pdockal I mean we'll forget that Israel was violently created from Palestine and then 700,000 people were forcibly displaced and massacred by the Israeli forces as they left. But yes, Israel are blameless. They haven't killed a single non-combatant. After all, babies are Hamas too.

@wishforthenight fitting. The Israeli leadership is

@ekwalizur Agreed. I have no truck with Israel, but Netanyahu, Smotrich and Ben-Gvir are the Unholy Trinity.

@wildland

OMG ....
your actually defending Hamas ?

Anti-Jewish sentiment can be traced back to ancient times, with documented prejudice in places like 3rd century BCE Alexandria. Following the conquest of Jerusalem in 586 BCE, many Jews were exiled to Babylon, marking the beginning of the Jewish diaspora
The northern Kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE, and many Israelites were exiled
The southern Kingdom of Judah, centered in Jerusalem, was conquered by the Neo-Babylonian Empire in 586 BCE, which destroyed the First Temple and led to the Babylonian Exile of many Jew
The Romans conquered Judea in 63 BCE. Following failed Jewish revolts in 70 CE and 135 CE, the Romans destroyed the Second Temple, exiled many Jews, and renamed the area Syria Palaestina. This cemented the start of the Jewish diaspora, the scattering of Jews throughout the world

so as history shows the Jews have been tossed out of their homeland for many centuries & they are the ones to blame for the violence & genocide

your a joke

@wishforthenight

is that an attempt to insult me ?
look @ history
look @ who was persecuted for centuries

oh why do i bother ... im talking to the wall of uneducted people

@pdockalWOW OMG !

First, let’s get something straight: defending the rights of Palestinians to not be bombed, starved, displaced, or occupied is not defending Hamas. That is a lazy, bad-faith smear!! It is what people resort to when they have no real argument. Not everyone who speaks out against injustice is endorsing terrorism, and pretending otherwise is a weak tactic used to silence criticism of brutal policies!

Now, about your so-called “history lesson.” Yes, Jewish history is full of horrific persecution. NO ONE denies that. But what you are doing is weaponizing historical trauma to justify current oppression. That is not justice. That is repeating history with new victims. The suffering of Jews in the past does not give Israel, or anyone else, a blank check to ethnically cleanse or colonize another population today, but that's waht they're doing!

You are throwing out historical events from thousands of years ago as if they somehow justify bulldozing homes, killing civilians, or locking millions of people in an open-air prison. That is not historical insight. That is propaganda. You would not accept that logic from anyone else. If another group claimed ancient persecution as justification to brutalize people now, you would rightly call it insane.

And let’s talk about your last line, where you claimed Jews are “to blame for violence and genocide.” That is antisemitic BULLSHIT. But the irony here is that you are doing the exact same thing you claim to oppose. You are blaming an entire people for the actions of governments and political movements. You are conflating Judaism, Zionism, and the State of Israel into one monolith, then attacking anyone who does not fall in line as a terrorist sympathizer. That is not just ignorant. It is dangerous.

Calling me “a joke” does not change the facts. You clearly cannot separate criticism of a state’s policies from your own tribalist worldview. You are not here to understand anything. You are here to regurgitate far-right talking points, silence dissent, and pretend history only matters when it serves your argument. But here is the reality: both Israelis and Palestinians deserve to live in peace and dignity. That will never happen as long as people like you insist that one group’s trauma justifies another group’s destruction.

So no, I am not the joke here. What is a joke is thinking you can shut down a conversation about human rights with a sloppy, ahistorical rant and some thinly veiled bigotry. Try harder, idiot.

@pdockal Look at my comment here.

this isnt a conversation
your defending Hamas which you cant & shouldnt
THEY HAVE CIVILIAN HOSTAGES SOME OF WHOM HAVE DIED IN THEIR CAPTIVITY WHICH IS UNDEFENDABLE

good bye
good day
you are wasting my time

@pdockal You keep lying about me “defending Hamas” because you can’t handle anyone criticizing Israel’s actions without smearing them as a terrorist sympathizer. That’s dishonest and cowardly.

Hostage-taking is horrific and I’ve never defended it. What is indefensible is using that as a shield to ignore the 67,000+ Palestinian civilians killed, thousands more held and tortured in Israeli prisons without charge, and entire families wiped out in the name of “self-defense.”

You’re not interested in justice, just tribal loyalty. You came here to shout, not listen. So yes, this isn’t a conversation. It's you projecting and deflecting.

We're done.

@wishforthenight

there is NO justice for terrorists

Genocide” refers to the physical destruction of an entire group in whole or in part that has been targeted on the basis of its identity. This is not Israel’s objective in Gaza
Israel is not seeking to destroy the Palestinian people or the Palestinian population of Gaza, which is what would need to happen in order to correctly apply the term “genocide.” Israel’s leaders have repeatedly asserted that their campaign in Gaza is solely against the terrorist organization Hamas. In fact, this type of military campaign is the exact opposite of reflecting an attempt to eliminate the Palestinian population
Since October 7, Israel’s objective in Gaza has been to destroy Hamas, a terrorist organization that carried out an unprecedented and brutal massacre against its people, including infants, children, elderly and disabled people.

A recent report concluded that Hamas used sexual violence as a tactical weapon of war during and after the October 7 attack that Hamas terrorists, using widespread and systematic sexual violence across geographic locations, and against hostages in captivity.

The goal of Hamas is to wipe Israel and Jews off the map, and in the aftermath of the October 7 terror attack, its representatives reiterated that they will never stop pursuing it. That’s an example of genocidal intent.

While Hamas’s military capacity has been largely decimated by Israel, it still retains control over areas of Gaza and still continues to hold Israeli hostages.

Israel is fully justified in using military force to respond to Hamas’s October 7 attack (read AJC’s explainer on Israel, Hamas, and international law). Israel’s use of military force in Gaza in the face of such an ongoing threat is not evidence of genocide, but completely consistent with international law.

The IDF’s practices also disprove claims of genocidal intent, as the Israeli military has repeatedly relocated Palestinian civilians within Gaza in an effort to ensure they are out of harm’s way as it undertakes its legitimate military campaign to destroy Hamas’s terrorist infrastructure.

In fact, at the start of the war, Israel called for the temporary evacuation of the local population in the northern part of the Gaza Strip, and delayed its ground operation in Gaza for weeks to allow civilians time to heed Israel’s warnings. It went to great lengths to designate humanitarian corridors, or safe routes for Palestinian civilians to relocate from northern Gaza.

The IDF still endeavors to warn Gazans prior to attacks and has allowed humanitarian aid for civilians to be delivered under arrangements intended to prevent Hamas from diverting aid or controlling its distribution to reinforce its authority.

@wishforthenight

Those who claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza not only misunderstand the legal definition of genocide and what the laws of war permit; they also base the charge on unsubstantiated claims, such as a report issued by Amnesty International.

It is unquestionable that many civilians in Gaza have died and even more have suffered immensely since October 7. However, there are so many “unknowns” with an important bearing on Israel’s conduct in this war that it is impossible to say with certainty that it is acting wrongfully.

The number of “innocents” vs. terrorists that have died: This is impossible to know given that the Ministry of Health in Gaza is under the control of and susceptible to influence by Hamas, and does not separate innocent civilians from fighters in its announced death tolls.
The circumstances in which numerous innocents have been killed in Gaza: This includes whether they died because of attacks carried out by the IDF or because of intentional or unintentional harmful actions by Hamas or other Palestinian armed groups. A key example is the explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City, which the U.S. and other governments have determined was caused by a failed rocket fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad and not, as Hamas, the Hamas-controlled Ministry of Health in Gaza, and many other sources claimed, by the IDF.
The nature of the military objective of attacks carried out by the IDF in which Palestinian civilians have died: Given that it is not possible for independent assessments to be conducted into whether a Hamas leader, tunnel, and/or weapons cache was present at the site of any specific IDF attack in Gaza, which Hamas still largely controls.
While some of those who claim Israel is engaged in genocide in Gaza are doing so for malign purposes - for example, justifying Hamas' October 7 massacre by claiming Israel is ‘worse,’ many others have been deliberately misled. Their goal of ending the suffering of Palestinians in Gaza would be far better served by placing blame for that suffering where it lies - with Hamas - and supporting efforts to bring about its defeat so that Palestinian and Israeli civilians can have the peace and security they all deserve as quickly as possible.