He definitely would be hated by the right wing

@BritishFailedAesthetic @BritishFailedAesthetic Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.[20]
—Psalms 82 (81): 3, 4
Blessed is the man who fears the Lord, who greatly delights in his commandments! ... He has distributed freely, he has given to the poor; his righteousness endures forever; his horn is exalted in honour.[20]
—Psalms 112 (111): 1, 9

@Guitarman123 Excellent! You should come home to our Saviour and our Heavenly Father.

@Guitarman123 I don't get the point you are trying to prove.

Point one is about a ideal righteous ruling system.

Point two is about individual believers- not a welfare system funded by the government.

@BritishFailedAesthetic He doesn't have a point to prove, either. He's one of those "success is capitalism and capitalism is evil, and that's why I'm not successful - I'm not evil" people. Nothing to contribute.

@BritishFailedAesthetic the point being that the practical teachings of jesus are proto socialist

@Therealsteve define success

@Guitarman123 I'd define success as a state diametrically opposed to yours.

@Guitarman123 The word you are looking for is "koinism".

@Guitarman123
No they weren't. They were for individual Christians.

Tell me one place where Jesus calls on the Roman government to implement socialist principles.

@BritishFailedAesthetic What he said is telling. It can be argued that you could make a case for socialism, using Jesus' word. And many have, and there have been christian communes, and my church does practice a form of socialism which is very beneficial for each of us as individuals.

This is why I argue that God had already created the right ways of doing things, and statist, secular leftists create warped versions of the concepts of Christianity that inevitably cause death and destruction. Making them "satanic" in the actual sense of the word.

@Therealsteve Nowhere is socialism promoted.

This was for Christians to show Christ's love to each other and use their money for God honouring purposes.

@BritishFailedAesthetic He didn't say the Roman government should NOT apply his teachings either. The fact he appealed to individuals doesn't make it incompatible with a model in which the collectivity as a whole participates. That'd be an extra step on top of what he advocated for, not something incompatible with it.

The idea that you should be allowed or even encouraged to hoard as much wealth as possible, on the other hand, is. And rightwingism is (economically) essentially that: the belief that there should be no restrictions on how much wealth an individual can accrue, and little to no efforts towards redistribution (taxation), which they see as theft. That's the exact opposite of Jesus message ("sell all your possessions and follow me", "render to Caesar what is Caesar's").

@Elessar He really didn't get involved with government, that wasn't his mission.

His mission to save those who come to him as their Saviour from hell.

@BritishFailedAesthetic Exactly. So I don't get why the left would hate him anywhere as much as the right: the left platform isn't the one incompatible with his mission, the right's one is literally the opposite of what he predicated

@Elessar Oof I try to avoid this for my posts.

Let's just say the Pauline letters were also revelations of Christ to Paul.

@Elessar Leftists want the blessings that come from Christianity, but hate the responsibilities inherent to the receiving of those blessings. They instead create their own, inverted socialist versions and eternally hate Christianity, because unsurprisingly, God knows a thing or two and makes it work, whilst their versions lead to death and destruction. This makes bitter leftists seethe. keep seething @Guitarman123, it's all you can do!

@BritishFailedAesthetic I don't remember a lot about those, but I can't think of anything on the spot in them that'd make him disliked by the political left?

The foundation of the Church isn't incompatible with leftwingism either; let alone be a reason for being hated. Institutionalized religions are antagonized at most when hoarding power and infiltrating the state, not for merely existing. And that concentration of power by the Catholic Church didn't happen until *centuries* after the times of Christ and Paul (middle ages, so at least 400 years later)

@Elessar Ehhh the left would have lots of problems with the social values of God's word.

@BritishFailedAesthetic Examples?

@Elessar

@BritishFailedAesthetic Come on, spill the (stereotypical) beans 🫘😏

@Elessar I can.

@Therealsteve Do it then. Bring me something in Christ's message that'd be just as incompatible with openly stated leftwing principles, as Christ's calls for wealth redistribution are with the right's flagship goal of removing as many barriers as possible to wealth concentration

@Elessar The wealth thing is a personal thing for individual Christians to apply.

@BritishFailedAesthetic But as I said not necessarily, Christ said nothing against nation-states regulating on it on top of the individual effort

The left's economic platform is a superset of Jesus', not an opposite.