Democrats launch investigation into American citizen Trump's 17 trillion dollar theft

@whowasthatmaskedman

I will, at the request of the site, respectfully even though I do not think you merit that.

Yes, the money does exist, but when someone is so uninformed as to think of these countries are going to give the money to the government, it defies reason to make believe that person is reachable by facts or intelligence.

No tariff fallout. So sad.

No one is losing money, even the dems.

Except the regular people, whom the dems seem to hate with a passion. Guns and Bibles,Obama. Basket of deplorable, H. Clinton. Smelly Walmart people, Strocke. Famous for his insurance policy against DT.

Oh, but let’s hate DT and love the people who want a policy against him. Ummm…demonic, I believe would be the best definition. Hate the target, love the killer.
Ethically, no other description. Remember, ethics has no party. So when you make up lies, disproved in the headlines every day, what am I to think?

Your turn to rant like a cartoon character now.

@MarthannBann888 Your closing lines are very appropriate. Because I dont hate Trump (or anyone else) for his politics. You may have missed this, But frankly I dont care if America is a democracy or not. I am all about the economics, and the efficiency and effectiveness of the system that runs it. And in that sense, money, like ethics, has no politics. I base my beliefs on a field of maths called Game Theory. I seek the best possible outcome for the greatest number, with any given set of resources.. If that is achieved with a Dictator, a technocrat or a democracy, I dont really care. My dislike of Trump is based solely on his methods of doing business prior to his political life and his continued use of those values to obtain more for himself and deny all others a reasonable outcome for themselves..
Now I confess his personal values would lead me to believe he is not someone I care to have living in my street (or my country) Simply because he is totally self absorbed and dishonest. Also morally bankrupt. But since he is your problem and not mine, I dont waste hate on him for that. I just feel sad at the stupidity of those who follow him.😷

@whowasthatmaskedman There is no such thing as a benevolent dictator though, in my opinion they just hide their monstrous ways until the last minute

@SatanBurger In practical terms i agree. but we have to allow for the possibility..😷

@whowasthatmaskedman

These has never been a communist/socialist country that was prosperous except for an elite minority.

@MarthannBann888 Agreed. But the same can be said for a Capitalist state..Or a monarchy. And have you seen the Vatican? It is the nature of human beings to acquire as much as they can hold, rather than as much as they need. And thet means some dont get enough. I dont like it. but I cant deny it exists..😷

@whowasthatmaskedman

If you live in the United States, then you live in the best there is. Not with standing our greatly flawed educational system, on measures of general well being for the greatest number of people we win.

@whowasthatmaskedman

But, you are right among government employees.

@MarthannBann888 No.. You just dont! I cant remember the number of times i have trotted this out. And things are so much worse now..😷
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@MarthannBann888 You call everything you disagree with communism tho so what is your point? To anti commies, everything not sucking off billionaires is communism so I fail to see how you would recognize it.

@SatanBurger

I recognize communism by the body count. Ten times all other forms of government is generally where communism starts. I have studied the subject in formal and informal courses starting in my senior year in HS for the past 55 years. I do not propose to know everything about any subject, but I also do not call “everything I disagree with” communism. Communism has its own particular evil. In the words of Paul Johnson in his work, Modern Times, although religions and governments over the course of history were most certainly murderous to varying degrees, the force of God put at least some restraints on human behavior. It was not until the advent of atheistic governments that the real slaughter began.

@MarthannBann888
You absolutely do. A lot of my posts are just talking about what's wrong with having basic human decency and you comment all hot and bothered talking about communist this or communist that. You do call everything you disagree with communist period.

@MarthannBann888
Funny how people forget that most wars and conquests before the 20th century were led by very religious empires. Humans don’t need atheism to justify violence, we’re unfortunately creative that way.

Large-scale atrocities have happened under both religious and atheistic regimes, it’s less about belief or unbelief, and more about authoritarianism, ideology, and power.

The Crusades, Inquisition, and Thirty Years War, for example, weren’t atheistic. And Stalin’s or Mao’s regimes weren’t driven by atheism itself, but by cults of personality ironically like Trump.

Furthermore most secular countries which aren't atheist but means keeping religion and government separate so no belief system has state power over others are doing way better in both education and overall life expectancy.

Secular democracies, like the Nordic countries, Japan, or much of Western Europe consistently rank among the most peaceful, prosperous, and equitable societies in the world.

They tend to have higher life expectancy, lower corruption, less violence, and stronger protections for human rights.

@MarthannBann888 says
This is the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. If people in the country are prospering, you refuse to label it communism🤣😂

@ElwoodBlues Some people clearly cant tell Totalitarianism from Communism..😷

@SatanBurger

Again, Johnson did not say that atrocities have not occurred in history, he said that the worst by far have occurred in modern day atheistic societies where human life is not valued and there is no recognition of God given rights.

Personally, the focus on Crusades etc. is a means of avoiding a conversation about the incredible loss of life in the modern era. We have talked about the distant past to the extent that the present is excluded from consideration as it has in this case.

Textbooks say this technique is one of many to take the subject away from a glaring truth. Anyone who claims a regard for human life and liberty would want to work toward a better world today. I do care about past atrocities and my caring today is because I hate seeing the past repeated.

It is also damaging for people to use a focus on the past to distract from present atrocities.

@MarthannBann888 I think it’s important to clarify that there really aren’t any “atheistic societies.” What existed were authoritarian regimes that enforced state ideology and suppressed religion as cults of personality just as other regimes in history have enforced religion and suppressed dissent.

By contrast, secular societies where the government stays neutral on religion and individuals are free to believe or not, consistently perform best when it comes to peace, education, life expectancy, equality, and overall quality of life.

Secular governments are more modern day rather than what you're focusing on.


Yup let's leave it at the past, hopefully you'll take your own advice since we have no atheistic societies right now.

I would say if you want to confuse atheism with secularism go ahead but secular societies perform best and don't have piled up bodies from war.