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Ford loses $5.5 billion on EVs in 2025, blames “pesky” customers . . .



Photo above - During World War 2 cars and trucks were modified to run on coal, as an alternative fuel.

The docents and dowagers named Ford must be turning over in their graves right now. Ford Motor Company's CEO – Jim Farley - is presiding over a 50% drop in stock price. From $27 in 2022, when he ascended to the corner office, to $12 today. Ford’s 1 year future “target price” as estimated by Wall Street pro's is a further decline to $11.

How could this happen?

Mr. Farley blames “pesky” customers for not flocking to his $100,000 Ford F150 Lightning pickups (platinum trim). If $100K sounds insane, you can get a less heroic trim EV F150 for only $75,000. See link below. Okay, I can see a couple of problems here, Mr. Farley.

First, somebody in accounting may have told you that EV tax rebates continue forever and would rise from $7,500 to $12,000. As long as the assembly line churning them out was staffed by UAW members. Various people in DC were talking this up, as if they could just print money endlessly.

Second, somebody in Ford's sales department may have misplaced a digit, and overestimated the market size for $100,000 pickups. Electric vehicles are a thing with coastal elites. Those locations have the charging infrastructure. Farmers in Kansas? Not so much. If a farmer runs short on electrons, it could be a long way back to barn to plug in.

So Ford is pivoting to hybrids, a decade after Honda and Toyota figured out this was the answer to range anxiety. Apparently, all new Ford, GM and Ram pickups will be hybrids. It’s not certain if they will still be “flex fuel”, and able to run on 85% ethanol. This was one of the byproducts of the 1992 Energy Policy Act. Almost immediately refineries began churning out more than 1 billion gallons of ethanol a year, as a consequence of government handouts to corn farmers. Even though there are actually almost zero filling stations where you can get E85. E85 capability became a feature, not a bug. on new pickup truck window stickers.

As usual, I’m dissatisfied. I don’t want to throw tax money at farmers to produce ethanol instead of food for my dinner table. I don’t want perpetual tax incentives on $100,000 electric pickup trucks simply because someone covets UAW votes. I don’t want to wake up tomorrow and read that someone else has patented a pickup truck that runs on coal, and there’s a tax incentive on THAT now . . .

Mr. Farley, you’re not the first CEO to get bamboozled by congress, your accountants, and your sales department. But Ford stock HAS declined 50% over the past couple of years. And you're almost 65 years old. Maybe this would be a good time to start retirement planning?

I’m just sayin’ . . .



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Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
Ford should continue with what they are good at big V 8 5.9 L engines and have more collaboration with Shelby to make special runs of fast high powered and performance vehicles like Mustang's.
It will speed things up if Donald writes out an Executive Order to abolish the 55 mph limit as well. Everyone will be able to get places faster if the inter states became like Autobahns
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Avectoijesuismoi we're probably past "peak ginormous v8" engines. the fastest ICE cars apparently have 6 cylinder ultra-turbo charged engines.

apparently they are getting beaten at Nürburgring by EV sports cars.
Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
@SusanInFlorida properly tuned with the right gear ratios a V8 with turbo could produce 300 + mph in a correctly built Mustang. I have a Mustang GT 500 twin turbo that produces 1600 BHP. It is a improved Shelby Super snake. I also put it on diet do it shed the excess pounds it didn't need. It is actually probably faster than the tuatara is. I have managed to get it just over 300 mph in a terror run but had to haul back as I ran out of straight on the inter state
In memory of the great Carroll Shelby.
and Ken Miles.
There is no greater feeling than pedal to the metal with something like" born to be wild" blasting out.
I have driven Nurburgring in 6:39 on an Aston Martin.
Mega petrol head
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Avectoijesuismoi i have been 120 mph in a mustang cobra convertible (interstate 95). don't know where you could reach 200-300 mph? Montana? at what point does the dynamic airflow flip it over?
Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
@SusanInFlorida They are actually designed now to go quick quick my one has been Shelby-ied ultra Shelby the turbos are not the standard they are much bigger.
Lots of weight savings have been made. Cosmetically it looks like the "original car" to the eye but she is prepared as if she had been built (Carroll Shelby) to race Daytona or Le Man's. Then someone stuck a California plate on her.
Her acceleration is far faster ,6 of a second off her 0-60 mph do that is down to under 2 seconds, the gear ratios are racecar, the BHP has gone up by 200.
Basically I bought a Shelby sent her back and financed a rebuild like Mr Ford did in the movie Ford V Ferrari.
Not the first time I have taken a car that was already fast and said let's make it faster and lighter.
I also have a 1967 Eleanor that is currently in build that will have 1100 BHP. There are going to be some very fast Mustang's in California.
After Eleanor there is a Mustang cobra Jet in the making and possibly an Eleanor version of a Mustang KR.
The 1967 Eleanor has honeycomb. It takes weight of a car.