Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Explain to me why an illegal here get due process and enjoy the full extent of our legal system when they didn’t do their “DUE PROCESS” to get here in the first place?
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Northwest · M
Interesting. I'm reading some of the posts here, and some amuse me.
Bill Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, but it really amuses me that the commenter doesn't understand that the President does not decide that (typo: this should be what not that) bills are approved. Congress does. In this case it was a GOP controlled Senate and a GOP controlled House.
Nevertheless, the bill was part of an "omnibus" bull, that went into effect on September 30, 1196 (I'm sure you understand that this is a typo, and it's 1996, not 1196, right?).
Portions of the bill were requested by both parties. Things like making sure companies have a way of vetting employees, and reducing fraud.
Trying to equate it with what's happening today, is laughable. For starters, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama and Joe Biden, did not send the National Guard into Home Depot parking lots to toss people, without ANY form of due process, to avoid mistakes, in the back of vans, and then send them to gulags.
Bill Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, but it really amuses me that the commenter doesn't understand that the President does not decide that (typo: this should be what not that) bills are approved. Congress does. In this case it was a GOP controlled Senate and a GOP controlled House.
Nevertheless, the bill was part of an "omnibus" bull, that went into effect on September 30, 1196 (I'm sure you understand that this is a typo, and it's 1996, not 1196, right?).
Portions of the bill were requested by both parties. Things like making sure companies have a way of vetting employees, and reducing fraud.
Trying to equate it with what's happening today, is laughable. For starters, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama and Joe Biden, did not send the National Guard into Home Depot parking lots to toss people, without ANY form of due process, to avoid mistakes, in the back of vans, and then send them to gulags.
Northwest · M
@pdockal
You may want to consider that not once did you answer the question I asked.
Yet you can't comprehend that what you presented, does not address my comment. Perhaps you may want to switch to the X Mars Program. That would be another topic I did not comment on.
like I said grammar police
I post actual information not "feelings" or "beliefs" like you
I post actual information not "feelings" or "beliefs" like you
You may want to consider that not once did you answer the question I asked.
You have no understanding that calling the Information i presented Omnibus is inaccurate
Yet you can't comprehend that what you presented, does not address my comment. Perhaps you may want to switch to the X Mars Program. That would be another topic I did not comment on.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest
like I said your entitiled to spew your misdirection ... you still havent admitted to use of the term OMNIBUS wrong
You keep deflecting trying to focus on grammar etc
I have duely adressed you with actual language of bills that are being used regarding deporting illegal .... you do remember these are illegals who broke the law to enter
good luck
good day
bub bye
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like I said your entitiled to spew your misdirection ... you still havent admitted to use of the term OMNIBUS wrong
You keep deflecting trying to focus on grammar etc
I have duely adressed you with actual language of bills that are being used regarding deporting illegal .... you do remember these are illegals who broke the law to enter
good luck
good day
bub bye
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Northwest · M
@pdockal
Maybe you believe I used it incorrectly, just like you believe that "your" and "you're" are one and the same.
But the topic is NOT your own definition of omnibus, as hard as you try to deflect. Get on with the topic.
Shouldn't you be in Portland, trying to put the massive fires out?
you still havent admitted to use of the term OMNIBUS wrong
Maybe you believe I used it incorrectly, just like you believe that "your" and "you're" are one and the same.
But the topic is NOT your own definition of omnibus, as hard as you try to deflect. Get on with the topic.
Shouldn't you be in Portland, trying to put the massive fires out?
BizSuitStacy · M
I don't know anyone that's been deported. I don't even know anyone who knows anyone that was deported.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@BizSuitStacy Example of MAGAt ignorance. Do you really believe that 1.5T number your barfed up?
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@MoveAlong oh it's happening and it's long overdue. 👍
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@BizSuitStacy Maybe only 15 more million to go . 🙂
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
I don't know anyone who is being deported.
Maybe people aren't up in arms because they know damn well they are here illegally and there is nothing to be done.
In addition, they organize and start making that public, what stops ICE from showing up and arresting them all?
Do you really want to assist ICE in being more efficient?
Maybe people aren't up in arms because they know damn well they are here illegally and there is nothing to be done.
In addition, they organize and start making that public, what stops ICE from showing up and arresting them all?
Do you really want to assist ICE in being more efficient?
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@MoveAlong you know what they say about opinions
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@Prison1203 People are saying have the best opinions. They come up to me with tears in their eyes saying what great opinions I have.
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nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
If they came into your home uninvited, what would you do???
The current Supreme Court may feel different about that ruling. Many things have changed in the last 24 years.
The current Supreme Court may feel different about that ruling. Many things have changed in the last 24 years.
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nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@Ravens80 It's just another way to steal TAX dollars.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@Ravens80 Me either.
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JSul3 · 70-79
@AuRevoir
"....national emergency and foreign invasion of 20 million+ criminal immigrants."
Entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor, not a felony.
Data from July 2025 shows that approximately 65-72% of people in ICE detention have no criminal convictions, with figures ranging from 65% for book-ins (people processed into the system) and 71% for those held in detention. Reports from sources like the Cato Institute and Newsweek show figures that confirm this trend, with many of those who do have convictions having only minor offenses such as traffic violations.
So, why isn't arresting the worst of the worst....like drug dealers and murderers?
Why focus on day laborers and folks that have been here for years, working and paying taxes? Why arrest those who are appearing in court to get their cases heard by a judge?
These folks should be given an immediate green card and road to citizenship.
The system is broken because those who entered are not being processed and their cases heard because we do not have enough judges to work the enormous back log.
Nobody says that major criminals should not be arrested, jailed or deported......but EVERYONE must be given due process.
That's the law.
Trump is not arresting the worst of the worst.
"....national emergency and foreign invasion of 20 million+ criminal immigrants."
Entering the US illegally is a misdemeanor, not a felony.
Data from July 2025 shows that approximately 65-72% of people in ICE detention have no criminal convictions, with figures ranging from 65% for book-ins (people processed into the system) and 71% for those held in detention. Reports from sources like the Cato Institute and Newsweek show figures that confirm this trend, with many of those who do have convictions having only minor offenses such as traffic violations.
So, why isn't arresting the worst of the worst....like drug dealers and murderers?
Why focus on day laborers and folks that have been here for years, working and paying taxes? Why arrest those who are appearing in court to get their cases heard by a judge?
These folks should be given an immediate green card and road to citizenship.
The system is broken because those who entered are not being processed and their cases heard because we do not have enough judges to work the enormous back log.
Nobody says that major criminals should not be arrested, jailed or deported......but EVERYONE must be given due process.
That's the law.
Trump is not arresting the worst of the worst.
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KunsanVeteran · M
There is another “No King’s Protest” scheduled for mid October—that would be a great opportunity to rally!
To paraphrase a famous quote:
“All that is necessary for the voices of fascism to take over our country is for the good law abiding men and women to do nothing!”
To paraphrase a famous quote:
“All that is necessary for the voices of fascism to take over our country is for the good law abiding men and women to do nothing!”
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MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@AthrillatheHunt I wasn't talking to you then.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@MoveAlong I have friends who are documented immigrants , including my ex wife . I must have misread your post
What is it about the word "ILLEGAL" you don't understand?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@MoveAlong I’m very much pro constitution . Many believe the last administration let in so many people on purpose that due process would be impossible . It’s a sound strategy if you ask me
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@MsSwan LOL...it's so funny. They always seem to leave that word out, don't they. They like to substitute other words for the word "ILLEGAL". I wonder why???
Jake966 · 56-60, M
Undocumented workers aren’t entitled to due process
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@pdockal either did you
pdockal · 56-60, M
@nudistsueaz
Then your didint read my entire post
Then you don't understand the laws
Then you don't understand the process by which laws are created & the almost impossible process to change the constition
Then ............ oh well
Good luck
Then your didint read my entire post
Then you don't understand the laws
Then you don't understand the process by which laws are created & the almost impossible process to change the constition
Then ............ oh well
Good luck
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@pdockal Then you don't understand, good luck