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A Message to Document Workers and Your Friends

Most or many of you probably know someone or have a family member who has been swept up and deported without due process by Trump's SS. You don't have to live in fear in your own communities.

Organize!!! (I don't know why a leader hasn't emerged yet) If every one of you stay home and don't report for work for just one week you will have their attention. I know it will be a sacrifice because many of you live week to week. But you're already sacrificing through the fear and uncertainty they have installed in you and your community.

After one week they will see what you can do. You need to start storing canned goods and non perishables for a long haul. If you strike for a month, maybe only two weeks they will cry uncle. Factories, hotels, restaurants, construction projects and the transportation, storage and distribution of food and goods will slow to a trickle.

When the wealthy and corporations start losing money they will pressure the administration to rethink what they are doing and how they are doing it.

Remember, Nexstar and Sinclair changed their course within one week after subscription cancellations started pouring in and when sponsors started cancelling ads for the time slot that Jimmy Kimmel normally aired.

This is how you can beat them. This also the way we will eventually end Trump and his cronies who trying to take over America.

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Northwest · M
Interesting. I'm reading some of the posts here, and some amuse me.

Bill Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, but it really amuses me that the commenter doesn't understand that the President does not decide that (typo: this should be what not that) bills are approved. Congress does. In this case it was a GOP controlled Senate and a GOP controlled House.

Nevertheless, the bill was part of an "omnibus" bull, that went into effect on September 30, 1196 (I'm sure you understand that this is a typo, and it's 1996, not 1196, right?).

Portions of the bill were requested by both parties. Things like making sure companies have a way of vetting employees, and reducing fraud.

Trying to equate it with what's happening today, is laughable. For starters, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama and Joe Biden, did not send the National Guard into Home Depot parking lots to toss people, without ANY form of due process, to avoid mistakes, in the back of vans, and then send them to gulags.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

The president either signs the bill or vetos it
Northwest · M
@pdockal
The president either signs the bill or vetos it

Cool. You can read. So you can understand that this is NOT the Bill Clinton bill. It is the GOP Congress Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

Maybe you can't read and don't truly understand
Historically when a presidents signs the bill its his

Remember Clinton could have vetoed it but didn't
Remember ever administration/ congress after could have repealed/ammended that bill bit didn't
Unless I'm incorrect every administration after used it to their advantage
Northwest · M
@pdockal
Historically when a presidents signs the bill its his

Read again: the President's power is limited to signing the bill, or rejecting it. But perhaps as a MAGA, you don't comprehend separation of powers, because Trump has you convinced that it's all about himself.

You also parroted the name of the Act, and don't understand. what an omnibus bill is. Clinton could have vetoed the omnibus bill, not the Act itself only.

Got it now? Try harder.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

The principle of separation of powers in the United States divides governmental authority among three distinct and independent branches: the legislative, the executive, and the judicial.

Trump hasn't convinced me of anything.
Neither have you.

An omnibus bill is a single piece of legislation that packages many smaller bills or different policy proposals into one large bill. It gets its name from the Latin word omnibus, which means "for all". This type of bill is a common legislative tool, particularly for passing spending legislation when there are tight deadlines.

During the presidency of Bill Clinton, particularly in 1996, the United States enacted a series of landmark immigration laws that radically reshaped the enforcement, legal, and criminal aspects of the immigration system. Three key laws define this period.

The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA) of 1996.

The Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act (AEDPA) of 1996.

The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (PRWORA) of 1996.

These three laws collectively created a new legal framework that expanded grounds for deportation, increased border enforcement, restricted legal avenues to citizenship, and limited immigrant access to public benefits.

Expedited removal: This provision allowed border officials to deport some immigrants without a hearing before an immigration judge.

I could go on but i doubt you'd read or comprehend what's posted.
Suffice it to say that these laws have been on the books for 3 decades.
Nobody was outraged then but ......
Northwest · M
@pdockal
I could go on but i doubt you'd read or comprehend what's posted.

🤣🤣

Your word salad not withstanding, it wasn't until 1998 that the Supreme Court granted the President the authority to cancel line items from an omnibus bill. I'll let you spend another three hours interrogating ChatGPT, as you try to understand what that means.

More importantly, perhaps you should have tried to understand my original statement: Trying to equate it with what's happening today, is laughable.

In other words, you really need to try to read your word, post ChatGPT, and apply it in the right context. But you would need to understand it first.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

Blah
Blah
Blah

Keep spinning things to fit your narrative & ignore the facts
Northwest · M
@pdockal Is this what ChatGPT told you?

One more time: Trying to equate it with what's happening today, is laughable.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

One more time
Your delusional
Your misinformeda

What laws were signed that repeal or supercede the immigration laws signed by Clinton ?

Based on the laws signed by Clinton what laws are being broken today ?

So because you think times are different you don't have to follow laws ?

Entering our country is illegal & that should be ignored ?
Northwest · M
@pdockal

One more time
Your delusional
Your misinformeda

It's "you're", not "your", but, here's what I said (summarizing):

President does not decide what bills are approved. Congress does. In this case GOP Congress.

In 1996, President has to either approve an "omnibus" bill as is. It was not until 1998 that the President can pick and choose which parts of an omnibus bill to approve.

Who, which part am I misinformed about? or delusional?

What laws were signed that repeal or supercede the immigration laws signed by Clinton ?

You seem to be obsessed with the fact that the omnibus bill was signed by Clinton. Glad you asked ChatGPT to tell you what omnibus means. But I already told you that.

But you continue to deflect, because I'm not talking about the law, I specifically said:

Trying to equate it with what's happening today, is laughable. For starters, Bill Clinton, Barak Obama and Joe Biden, did not send the National Guard into Home Depot parking lots to toss people, without ANY form of due process, to avoid mistakes, in the back of vans, and then send them to gulags.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

so now your the grammer/typing police

ICE didnt even exist under Clinton
President Barack Obama oversaw more deportations through ICE than any other president, earning him the title "Deporter-in-Chief" from immigrant advocates.
critics have characterized the Biden administration's policies as too lenient or as encouraging illegal immigration
Expedited Removal: IIRAIRA expanded the authority of immigration officials to summarily deport certain noncitizens without a court hearing. The Trump administration has expanded the use of this authority by extending it nationwide and expanding the types of offenses that trigger expedited removal, which allows for rapid deportation with fewer due process protections.
Delegation to local law enforcement (287(g)): IIRAIRA created the 287(g) program, which allows ICE to train and authorize state and local police to perform certain federal immigration enforcement duties
IIRAIRA also expanded the use of mandatory detention for certain noncitizens.
There is no evidence that the National Guard is "rounding up" undocumented immigrants and asylum seekers.
You seemed to be obsessed with OMNIBUS which isnt a bill. Its a group of smaller bills grouped together.
Since its first use for appropriations in 1950, Congress has used omnibus bills many times, particularly since the 1980s. While it was originally a rare occurrence, it has become a common practice in recent decades
So when you say the OMNIBUS bill ... which one are you actually refering to?
I @ least have the actual name of the bill so that you can refer to it & NOT just rely on what I say.
Please go re-educate yourself
Northwest · M
@pdockal Blah, blah, blah.

Learn English, and try to stay on topic (yeah, you can't). And try to think for yourself every once if a while, your (see, this is how you use it) use of ChatGPT is starting to affect worldwide data centers.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

like I said grammar police
I post actual information not "feelings" or "beliefs" like you
You have no understanding that calling the Information i presented Omnibus is inaccurate
You seemed to be obsessed with OMNIBUS which isnt a bill. Its a group of smaller bills grouped together.
Since its first use for appropriations in 1950, Congress has used omnibus bills many times, particularly since the 1980s
Please refer to my previous post & your previous post
You seem to be obsessed with the fact that the omnibus bill was signed by Clinton. Glad you asked ChatGPT to tell you what omnibus means. But I already told you that.
Northwest · M
@pdockal

like I said grammar police
I post actual information not "feelings" or "beliefs" like you

You may want to consider that not once did you answer the question I asked.

You have no understanding that calling the Information i presented Omnibus is inaccurate

Yet you can't comprehend that what you presented, does not address my comment. Perhaps you may want to switch to the X Mars Program. That would be another topic I did not comment on.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@Northwest

like I said your entitiled to spew your misdirection ... you still havent admitted to use of the term OMNIBUS wrong
You keep deflecting trying to focus on grammar etc

I have duely adressed you with actual language of bills that are being used regarding deporting illegal .... you do remember these are illegals who broke the law to enter

good luck
good day
bub bye
(no further comments to be made)
Northwest · M
@pdockal
you still havent admitted to use of the term OMNIBUS wrong

Maybe you believe I used it incorrectly, just like you believe that "your" and "you're" are one and the same.

But the topic is NOT your own definition of omnibus, as hard as you try to deflect. Get on with the topic.

Shouldn't you be in Portland, trying to put the massive fires out?