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What are your thoughts on the restructuring of the Department of Education?

If you don’t know what I’m talking about, please read this. Please be kind to each other in the comments, this is a safe space for the sharing of thoughts.

https://www.ed.gov/about/news/press-release/us-department-of-education-afpi-tpusa-hillsdale-college-and-over-40-national-and-state-organizations-launch-america-250-civics-coalition#:~:text=Home-,U.S

Key points of the initiative:
• The coalition aims to “renew patriotism, strengthen civic knowledge, and advance a shared understanding of America’s founding principles” in K–12 and higher education settings.

• It is positioned as part of the lead-up to America’s 250th anniversary (in 2026) and is tied to the previous administration’s emphasis on patriotic education.

• The coalition will develop and deliver programming over the next year, including a “Fundamental Liberties College Speaker Series,” a 50-state speaking tour on college campuses, and other civic engagement efforts.

• Prominent figures leading or quoted in the press release include Secretary of Education Linda McMahon, Hillsdale College President Larry Arnn, and leadership from AFPI and Turning Point USA.
• The partner organizations include a constellation of conservative or right-of-center think tanks, policy institutes, and civic groups (e.g. Heritage Foundation, PragerU, American Cornerstone Institute, etc.).



Personal thoughts and concerns
I find this quite terrifying. I don’t enjoy the idea of children being presented skewed/biased information. The plan is to essentially water down/erase facts about U.S. History, and teaching kids about being “patriotic”. It seems more like indoctrination than anything. From what I have gathered from this, they plan on forcing religion and private organizations into the public school systems on a national level. Government endorsed religion is unconstitutional. It breaks our first amendment rights. The fact that this is all happening and nobody has tried to protest/fight this is insane.

Edit: Just adding more detailed thoughts here. I’m just yappin atp

Many of the coalition partners are openly conservative or right-leaning organizations (e.g. Turning Point USA, AFPI, Heritage Foundation, PragerU, etc.), there is a risk that the “civics education” being promoted will favor a particular ideological interpretation of U.S. history, constitutional principles, and civic identity. It is also very possible that they can omit difficult aspects of U.S. history (such as slavery, systemic racism, indigenous dispossession, internment of Japanese Americans, Jim Crow, civil rights struggles, women’s suffrage struggles, etc.). If the curriculum privileges a celebratory narrative, it risks creating a one-sided or whitewashed understanding of the past.

Effective civics education should expose students to historical conflict, ambiguity, and debate. If the coalition’s materials or programs prioritize consensus, unity, and “shared values” over contestation and debate, students might be discouraged from questioning or dissenting, which is antithetical to democratic citizenship. I understand a watering down of history has been a continuous battle, however I believe that it can and should stop with us here in 2025. We can be better than those before us, we can and should welcome an UNBIASED view of our history.

Many of the coalition members are private ideologically motivated organizations. There may be limited oversight or review of the educational content they produce. Without transparent peer review or public scrutiny, there is potential for biased or historically misleading materials to be disseminated.
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BorealPedant · 41-45, M
When conservative beliefs are that everything which does not support their views is political propaganda for the other side, it means they believe it's a requirement they correct things to become political propaganda for their side.

Or in short, uh, the very bad US education system is about to get very worse as six year olds are taught how to report their friend's parents to ICE.
@BorealPedant The bad US education system was failing because it has been focused on indoctrinating students into identity politics rather than focusing on academic subjects like math, english and science. There was no US Dept of Education until I was nearly out of school .. and the achievement scores were much more competitive to the rest of the world. We need to return to that focus on academics.
BorealPedant · 41-45, M
@BrandNewMan What's a good example of this indoctrination?
@BorealPedant

Critical race theory.

Teaching about sexual orientation or alternate gender ideas, especially too early in childhood.

Revisionist history.

Rights of school leaders vs parents

It goes on from there and even carries into universities

https://will-law.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/FromTheTop2.pdf
BorealPedant · 41-45, M
@BrandNewMan So let's look at bullet point two, just that one bit.

How do you deal with kids who have gay family members? I know a lesbian couple with two school-aged sons.
@BorealPedant Fine. Not the place of the public school system to explain to Johnny why Becky has 2 mommies.

Johnny and Becky need to be taught about things like verb conjugation, algebra and photosynthesis by the school system.
BorealPedant · 41-45, M
@BrandNewMan A child's education includes basic education about social norms. Forty years ago I was learning stuff about manners, social norms, how families are structured, and who is in my community. It makes perfect sense they'd include homosexuality in those teachings.

And I find disturbing that that paper implies that being gay is somehow exposing children to sexual concepts, while being straight does not. By framing gay people as unsafe for children, it leads to very disturbing questions about what is to be done about it.

What's at issue here is a turf war over the space of "normal". Conservatives and Liberals have different visions for society, and they want the kids to be taught that vision. Framing your ideas as rational and the liberal stuff as indoctrination is a bad faith argument and you know it.

And to be clear, the American education system sucks because schools are underfunded, there's a huge push to privatize and move to charters which means more underfunding, being a teacher is a dogshit job with no pay or respect, and there's rampant bad pedagogy like three-cueing.

American kids are graduating unable to read. That has nothing to do with critical race theory.
@BorealPedant I dont think conservative indoctrination is ok either. I think some of this stuff should be between the kids and their parent more so and more focus on academics in school.

My wife's a teacher. We pay more here per student than virtually all the countries with better outcomes. Its not just money .. its how it is used and we are not getting our current money's worth. Just throwing more money at it will then not solve the problems. Naive as hell to think otherwise.
@BorealPedant in the nineties they ratted on pot smoking parents and enjoyed foster care instead!