Question for You Californians Who Enjoy Food.

I don't have to tell you groceries cost too much. Same here in the Midwest.

But how much do you think you will have to pay if your long-time favorite local grocery store's property taxes increased twenty or thirty fold?

Don't worry about those calculations because they won't raise their prices. Instead, they will shut their doors and you will have to shop at a store built more recently if older stores (around in the same location for 20-40+ years) see their property values reassessed at current values.

Sure, many stores rent the land and/or the building from landlords. But those landlords would see their property taxes skyrocket if Prop 13 was repealed. And they will pass on that cost to grocers and other retailers that elect to stay.

Of course, with less competition guess what that will do to prices at the newer-built stores.

So, if you thought Trump's tariffs caused a spike in prices, you just wait for the other shoe to step on you.

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

It would affect certain urban areas far more than even suburban areas. Rural area's not as much.

In Southern California say goodbye to those stores in LA, SD and Orange counties. Yes all Beachside counties.

Riverside, San Bernardino not as much. And not at all in Imperial county. The land there is worthless.

Ironic to note that only LA and Imperial counties are democratic countries. The rest are all Republican.

Oh.. the minimum wage has nothing to do with this, since they can't afford any property at all. They are all renters working on minimum wage.

Not true in the 1960s and 1970s.

Yeah I was born, raised and likely to die in Southern California. My mother OWNED her own house on minimum wage in Southern California in the 1970s.

It's not even remotely possible today, unless you win the lottery.

jackjjackson · M

I’ve been to rural CA many times and love it. @DeWayfarer

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@jackjjackson I was born in the Mohave desert. A Republican county. You can't get any more rural than that desert.

jackjjackson · M

Nope. We were in Palm Springs in January and also spent some time in Joshua Tree. A highlight was a three hour star watching evening led by an astronomy professor. @DeWayfarer

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@jackjjackson We have had this discussion. Remember I currently don't live far from there.

jackjjackson · M

Oh yeah. Open space or developed?@DeWayfarer

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@jackjjackson I believe it was on one of Becky's posts at that. Could have been one of mine though. About the only two places we see each other I believe.

Semi developed, on the other side of I 10.

jackjjackson · M

The right side lol @DeWayfarer

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@jackjjackson depends on which way you are going. The North side of I 10.

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@DeWayfarer

I was born in the Mohave desert.

Mojave. The future birthplace Captain Christopher Pike.

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@DeWayfarer

Don't laugh!

The original Star Trek pilot was filmed in 1964, long before the Space Shuttle Enterprise orbiter was conceived, constructed and eventually landed on its own at Edwards AFB near Mojave in August 1977.

The space port in Mojave can be seen in the background, a memory from Captain Pike's mind recreated by the telepathic race Talosians.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@beckyromero I seen all of that series, so many times, that I can almost recite that scene.

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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@beckyromero that's just before that scene.

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@DeWayfarer

Did you know that Susan Oliver was on a transatlantic flight that dropped 30,000 feet over the Atlantic?

She overcame her fear of flying and became only the fourth woman at the time to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean in a a single-engined aircraft.

Damn Ruskies wouldn't let her fly on to Moscow, so she ended her trip in Denmark.

She also played a Martian in the Twilight Zone episode, "People Are Alike All Over."

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@beckyromero thing with me is I never was into the actors. Doesn't matter what show. So anything to do with the actors I am completely blind to.

Often I don't even know their real names.

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@DeWayfarer

But it's the actors that make the shows we like. So when there's a show that I like and particular characters that I enjoy watching, I do seek out the actor's other work because that might be a show or movie I might like as well.

Example: As you know I'm a Sean Connery fan. But if I wasn't a Sean Connery fan I might never have seen (maybe eventually perhaps as my interest in history grew) A Bridge Too Far.

DeWayfarer · 61-69, M

@beckyromero the actor is not the person on the screen. I won't even get into how my father felt about actors. You wanted to make him curse, you talked about actors.