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I May Be Left-Wing, But This Is Nonsense. The Left Have Went Too Far This Time.

I never liked Charlie Kirk. Let’s get that out of the way. His politics were the polar opposite of mine. I found his rhetoric shallow, his worldview cruel, and his movement toxic. But you know what? None of that matters right now.

Because Charlie Kirk is dead. Shot. Killed around his family. A young man who had just started building a life, just started a family, just begun to really live—gone. And people, my people, the so-called “compassionate” left, are laughing.

What in the hell is going on?

Since when did death become a punchline? Since when did we become so wrapped up in ideology that the loss of human life is a joke to us? Did we not come from a tradition that preached peace and love? Did we not once dream of a world without violence, without cruelty, without this endless cycle of vengeance?

If this is left-wing, then I want no part of it.

I’ve watched friends on the left clap their hands, make memes, and snicker like schoolchildren at a funeral. You think that’s progress? You think that’s liberation? No—that’s barbarism in a different outfit. That’s cruelty hiding under a red flag instead of a blue one.

Charlie Kirk and I had nothing in common ideologically. But he was a husband, a son, a father. A human being. And he did not deserve to die like that. His family did not deserve to watch him bleed out. And anyone who celebrates that is not left-wing, not progressive, not revolutionary—they’re just sick.

We used to chant “make love, not war.” We used to say “power to the people.” We used to mean it when we said we wanted peace, compassion, justice. What happened to that? What happened to building a better world, instead of becoming exactly what we claimed to hate?

Something has gone wrong on the modern left. And if we don’t face it, if we don’t cut this rot out from within, then we are no better than the very forces we fight.

This isn’t justice. This isn’t progress. This is cruelty dressed up as politics.

And I, a lifelong leftist, will say it loud: laughing at Charlie Kirk’s death is nonsense. It is shameful. And if you’re one of the ones who finds joy in this, then you’ve lost the plot.

Because humanity must come before politics. Always.
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DarthInvader · 36-40, M
The problem is that many people are conflating indifference with celebration. Kirk isn’t owed any empathy, especially from the groups to which he offered none.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@DarthInvader Your empathy towards a greiving widow and children is noted
DarthInvader · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 Would that be the same empathy her husband granted the children of Gaza or is this a one way street?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@DarthInvader You mean like the children murdered on Oct 7?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@DarthInvader I just think right wingers are a bit emotional about this and not thinking straight. They like to act all logical but are usually whiny
DarthInvader · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649 What's the relevance there, or are you just down to picking random atrocities ? What of October 6th 5th or 4th? Who justified oct7? Or are you simply unaware of Kirks sentiments on the genocide in Gaza?
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sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@DarthInvader Messages indicated that Robinson had changed outfits and left his rifle along with multiple shell casings on the north end of Campus Drive at UVU.

Bullet casings were located in a “grassy area with trees” on the edge of campus. Investigators recovered a Mauser model 98 30-06 bolt action rifle wrapped in a “dark-colored towel.”

Four casings were found with inscriptions near the rifle. These inscriptions seemed to reference online “meme” culture. One fired casing contained an inscription that read, “Notices Buldge OWO what’s this?”

Inscriptions on one of the three unfired casings read, “hey fascist! CATCH!” with the following symbols: up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrows.

The arrow sequence is possibly connected to the 2024 video game “Helldivers 2,” well-known among players as the way to “call-in” the “Eagle 500kg Bomb.” Typing those arrows in the game will summon a bomb that creates a large explosion. However, authorities have not officially confirmed the meaning of this sequence.

A second, unfired casing, said, “O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao.” A third casing inscription read, “If you read This, you are GAY Lmao.”

“Bella ciao” likely refers to an Italian protest song that was adopted in the 1940s by the anti-fascist resistance during Benito Mussolini’s time in power.
DarthInvader · 36-40, M
@sunsporter1649

Family Background:

Raised in a staunchly Republican, pro-Trump Mormon household. His grandmother stated, “We’re Republicans for Trump,” and didn’t know a Democrat in the family. No evidence he ever rebelled against this upbringing, so far anyway. This matters because if the argument is “ideological radicalization,” there’s no sign he turned against his family’s political beliefs.

Political Registration:

Registered as an independent.

Behavioral Evidence:

Inscriptions and other actions reflect internet meme culture, trolling humor, and gaming references, not a coherent political ideology.

Pop Culture References:

If one insists on reading politics into Bella Ciao, the same logic would apply to the right-leaning, edgy “gay Lmao” reference.

Gaming References:

Arrow sequence from Helldivers 2 and other gaming memes show immersion in online gaming culture, not ideology.

Gun Familiarity:

He had exposure to firearms, with images showing him shooting guns, though the extent of gun culture involvement may be exaggerated.

Seems to me his profile does not support claims of left-wing radicalization. He was raised in a Republican, pro-Trump Mormon family, registered independent, and showed no evidence of rebelling against his upbringing. His bullet casing inscriptions and behavior reflect internet meme and gaming culture, often with ironic or trolling intent. References like Bella Ciao are likely pop culture influences, and if one reads political intent into them, consistency requires reading other inscriptions, like the edgy “gay Lmao” meme, similarly.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@DarthInvader You keep spinning like that you are gonna fall off the planet and end up on Uranis
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@DarthInvader whoever that was blocked me but your comment is funny