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Hello MAGAs - Do You Still Believe Trump?

When he says that he deserves the Nobel for bringing an end to the Ukraine/Russia war. And while you're at it, which phase of the peace plan is the largest drone attack against Ukraine?

Of course most of the MAGAs on SW block me. They see no evil, and hear no evil.
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JanaF47 · 46-50, F
I am sorry but in my opinion he is not a magician and this situation is very difficult. Both sides of the conflict wont do any relevant compromise and have their strong interests. And both are backed by powerful alies.
Northwest · M
@JanaF47
I am sorry but in my opinion he is not a magician and this situation is very difficult.

Any reasonable person would agree with what you say. But this is absolutely, positively, without a doubt, NOT my question.

My question was: do you still believe Trump. He won the presidency on the promise that he will end the war within 24 hours.

And by-the-bye, he also ran his first term partially on the promise that he will solve the healthcare issue within 2 weeks, and then he finally he said "who knew healthcare is so complicated".

One might think that all he does is call everyone stupid, for not solving issues, when it turns out he has no clue what ANY issue is about.

Both sides of the conflict wont do any relevant compromise and have their strong interests.

Yeah, just like Trump said: Ukraine "chose" to go to war against a much more powerful enemy.

Oh, wait, Putin is the one who started the war, and promised it would be a 3-day special operation, at the end of which Zelensky would be in jail.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@JanaF47
Both sides of the conflict wont do any relevant compromise and have their strong interests

Don't you dare try to suggest equivalence between russia's murderous aggression and Ukraine’s fight for survival.
russia began its war against Ukraine eleven years ago... a war, not a 'conflict'... and has continued it ever since.
Even now Ukraine is openly offering to meet with the russian invaders to discuss a ceasefire but russia rejects the proposal. I will repeat: russia rejects the proposal.
russia's interest lies in stealing all of Ukraine and its resources and then obliterating the Ukrainian population and culture.
Ukraine's interest lies in stopping the russian filth from achieving that.

24 hours, TACO, you lying PoS! Your time is up.

JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@newjaninev2 I only try to suggest that right now the way to achieve piece or even ceasefire is very difficult and seems even imposible in next several months. Both sides of the conflict presented their conditions and they are very far from each other and neither of them seems willing to back down.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@JanaF47 What? Are MAGAts just realizing he's not a magician? They sure thought he was when they elected him.
JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@MoveAlong Do you think the second candidate was a better option?
Northwest · M
@JanaF47
I only try to suggest that right now the way to achieve piece or even ceasefire is very difficult and seems even imposible in next several months.

And I am only trying to suggest that this has ALWAYS been the case, and there would have never been an option where Trump could have stopped the war BEFORE it started, or after it started, simply because he's Donald Trump.

So, thank you for stating with anyone with a couple of firing neurons knows.

Hence the question: do you still believe Trump? That IS the question.
Northwest · M
@JanaF47
Do you think the second candidate was a better option?

You don't seem to be particularly skilled in trying to understand the actual question.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@JanaF47 Of course I do. My God, when Dick Cheney won't back the Republican candidate there is something really bad off about him.
@newjaninev2 Very well-put and I esp. like your graphic at the end.

And your uncompromising way of saying, "NO, RUSSIA WAS THE AGGRESSOR!"
JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@Northwest And you seem to be full of hate and bias againts Trump. Nobody said he is a magician, he simply tries to end the wars.
JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@SomeMichGuy Russia launched the invasion no doubt despite the fact they have been fighting there since 2014. But now there is a question how to end it.
@JanaF47 The US signed an international agreement to support Ukraine (along with the UK) in the event that Russia were to break it's own word in treaty and and attack Ukraine.

Russia is run by a former KGB officer, a Communist, and a thief, a liar, a bully, and a person persistently opposed to free elections, democratic values, and personal freedom.

Why did DJT break our national word as given in treaty? Why did Biden try to keep our solemn treaty oath?
JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@SomeMichGuy But should not be the primary concern to end the fighting? Besides sending weapons...
@JanaF47 So you think capitulating to Russia and helping them steal territory of another sovereign nation is America doing good?
JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@SomeMichGuy Ok but what solution would you suggest? And true is historically Crimea and eastern Ukraine used to be Russian...but of course this invasion was bad.
@JanaF47 Historically the US didn't exist and the land was owned by the first people to show up.

The solution is for is to stand firm with NATO to contain Putin.

Right now we are the bully's friend!

We are giving up our win of the Cold War at the same time that we're giving up our win of the Second World War. THAT'S NUTS.
JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@SomeMichGuy Well ok but strictly speaking Ukraine is not the NATO member so we are not obliged to activate NATO treaty and send all we have to help.
JSul3 · 70-79
@JanaF47 Budapest Memorandum.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@JanaF47
a better option

Surely you could have found someone who doesn't lie over and over and over, someone who believes in democracy, someone who will not abandon integrity and honour for personal gain, someone who doesn't require constant flattery, false praise, and total sycophantic obedience... someone who doesn't have total contempt for the gullible and the fearful.

Surely!
JanaF47 · 46-50, F
@newjaninev2 I understand your arguments and opinion, but in that case....why did they not find him or her? They had 4 years to find a better candidate who can beat him either inside republican party or in the election..
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@SomeMichGuy
shut out of the future

So true. In even my own small country, despite having been america's staunch ally in both war and peace, america is now seen as untrustworthy, unstable, and increasingly irrelevant.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@JanaF47
primary concern to end the fighting

russia could end the war today, immediately, by withdrawing to its 1991 borders.

It's as simple as that
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@JanaF47 The gullible, the fearful ,the hateful, could not conceive of anyone better... they still cannot - and it will destroy america's standing in the world.