FrozenWasteland · 61-69, M
I have a fairly open mind on the "man-made climate change" thing, but history has shown more than once that there can be a big gap between "peer-reviewed studies" and "fact".
99.9% of the people I hang out with hold the same views as I do on a lot of things. That doesn't make any of then "fact".
99.9% of the people I hang out with hold the same views as I do on a lot of things. That doesn't make any of then "fact".
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@FrozenWasteland yes. Of course you do. And quite rightly, because guess what?
99.9% of peer-reviewed studies agree that smoking can cause cancer.
99.9% of peer-reviewed studies agree that vaccines provide effective protection.
99% of peer- reviewed studies agree that obesity can increase your chances of heart disease.
And there’s not even a percentage regarding alcohol and liver disease; just “consistent, robust findings” across countless meta-analyses, cohort studies, and systematic reviews that alcohol increases the risk of liver disease.
But you accept all these as fact because you accept that 99%+ of peer-reviewed studies know them to be true.
So…
…why, then, do you refuse to accept the evidence of 99.9% of peer-reviewed studies that say that man made climate change is happening?
99.9% of peer-reviewed studies agree that smoking can cause cancer.
99.9% of peer-reviewed studies agree that vaccines provide effective protection.
99% of peer- reviewed studies agree that obesity can increase your chances of heart disease.
And there’s not even a percentage regarding alcohol and liver disease; just “consistent, robust findings” across countless meta-analyses, cohort studies, and systematic reviews that alcohol increases the risk of liver disease.
But you accept all these as fact because you accept that 99%+ of peer-reviewed studies know them to be true.
So…
…why, then, do you refuse to accept the evidence of 99.9% of peer-reviewed studies that say that man made climate change is happening?
FrozenWasteland · 61-69, M
@wishforthenight I'm not going to get into a big discussion here, but I'm not confident that climate studies have the same level of credibility as (say) most of the medical studies you cite. For a few reasons:
One can't really do well-controlled clinical studies, double-blind trials, etc. on climate.
Many climate "studies" are based on a relatively small number of data sets and predictive models, none of which have yielded very accurate predictions, at least to this point.
I suspect, albeit without terribly compelling evidence, that climate studies are more prone to confirmation bias than medical studies, though neither are necessarily immune.
Akin to that, results of climate studies are "sensationalized" far more than in any other scientific field I am aware of. Again, without a lot of evidence other than my understanding, such as it is, of human nature, I suspect this may tend to bias the results.
Finally, more than in any other scientific field (at least in recent times), dissent is actively and constructively discouraged. This may, I suspect, diminish the rigor, and hence the value, of the peer-review process.
In short, I don't believe that all sets of 99.9% peer-reviewed studies are equally reliable.
As I said initially, I have a fairly open mind on the "man-made climate change" subject -- I just don't find the 99.9% agreement argument convincing.
One can't really do well-controlled clinical studies, double-blind trials, etc. on climate.
Many climate "studies" are based on a relatively small number of data sets and predictive models, none of which have yielded very accurate predictions, at least to this point.
I suspect, albeit without terribly compelling evidence, that climate studies are more prone to confirmation bias than medical studies, though neither are necessarily immune.
Akin to that, results of climate studies are "sensationalized" far more than in any other scientific field I am aware of. Again, without a lot of evidence other than my understanding, such as it is, of human nature, I suspect this may tend to bias the results.
Finally, more than in any other scientific field (at least in recent times), dissent is actively and constructively discouraged. This may, I suspect, diminish the rigor, and hence the value, of the peer-review process.
In short, I don't believe that all sets of 99.9% peer-reviewed studies are equally reliable.
As I said initially, I have a fairly open mind on the "man-made climate change" subject -- I just don't find the 99.9% agreement argument convincing.
@FrozenWasteland Well, OK, yes climate science is complicated, and it's tough to wrap your head around some of the models. It’s also true that the media tends to sensationalize things, especially when the stakes are so high. And they are very high. I also think they're actually not being sensational enough because when you look at the total body of evidence from a range of scientific fields, the evidence is rock solid.
Yes, climate models aren’t perfect, and they don’t always predict with 100% accuracy (especially short-term), but the long-term trend of global warming is undeniable. What’s crucial is that these models are based on physical laws (like the greenhouse effect) and are backed by a huge amount of data; everything from paleoclimate records to modern temperature trends.
The fact that 99% of peer-reviewed studies agree on this point isn’t just a coincidence. It’s the result of decades of research and many, many lines of independent evidence.
Climate science obviously can’t be as controlled as clinical trials, but it’s still based on empirical, verifiable data. And even if some predictions have been off, the overall trend has been accurate, and increasingly, the models are improving, and are arguably being shown to be too conservative, worryingly
In the end, the overwhelming consensus in the scientific community isn’t about sensationalism or bias, it’s about evidence. Just like everything.
The evidence in favor of man-made climate change is far stronger than it might seem at first glance.
Yes, climate models aren’t perfect, and they don’t always predict with 100% accuracy (especially short-term), but the long-term trend of global warming is undeniable. What’s crucial is that these models are based on physical laws (like the greenhouse effect) and are backed by a huge amount of data; everything from paleoclimate records to modern temperature trends.
The fact that 99% of peer-reviewed studies agree on this point isn’t just a coincidence. It’s the result of decades of research and many, many lines of independent evidence.
Climate science obviously can’t be as controlled as clinical trials, but it’s still based on empirical, verifiable data. And even if some predictions have been off, the overall trend has been accurate, and increasingly, the models are improving, and are arguably being shown to be too conservative, worryingly
In the end, the overwhelming consensus in the scientific community isn’t about sensationalism or bias, it’s about evidence. Just like everything.
The evidence in favor of man-made climate change is far stronger than it might seem at first glance.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Another study dispelling the theory that CO2 is driving the climate….
Over the last 25 years or so we have enabled the green cultists help destroy our entire economy while instituting thousands of energy killing regulations within all of our major industries. All of this orchestrated in order to battle a mythical villain called carbon dioxide. Something which is the primary building block for life on this planet yet has been falsely stigmatized as the greatest threat to future human survival. You really can’t make this stuff up.
Barack Obama and the leftist climate cult agenda maniacs have done more damage to the American middle class than anyone/anything else in our history. These radical cultists helped corrupt a younger generation in warping their minds and forcing most of them to take up the war on CO2.
Instead of addressing the real climate problems we have, Obama and his fellow politically driven leftists decided to fight a mythical enemy, CO2. For all those who stood by and remained silent encouraging this green hysteria and this widespread transforming of our energy sector over to this unsustainable and inefficient green system have helped destroy this nation’s economy and their children’s future.
Not only did these green drones help destroy our economy, they have made us less safe and more vulnerable to becoming destroyed by foreign adversaries like China who profited big time due to the green grift. Those who purchased and put up those solar panels have helped fund the CCP army. But how many US citizens ever contemplate this sobering fact?
Who in the MSM or cures government will enlighten people on the study below?
New Study Thoroughly Disassembles The CO2-Drives-Climate Assumption In One Fell Swoop – ‘CO2 only contributes about 4-5% to the greenhouse effect, whereas water vapor & clouds contribute 95%
https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/08/15/new-study-thoroughly-disassembles-the-co2-drives-climate-assumption-in-one-fell-swoop-co2-only-contributes-about-4-5-to-the-greenhouse-effect-whereas-water-vapor-clouds-contribute-95/
Excerpt below from full article above.
[Not only does CO2 have no discernible effect on climate, but any alleged anthropogenic role within the hypothetical greenhouse effect is not detectable either.
In recent decades there has been a concerted effort to assert it is “settled” science to characterize variability in the atmospheric CO2 concentration – assumed to be modulated by human activity – as the predominant factor in both climate change and the so-called greenhouse effect.
Science, however, is never truly settled.
A newFrontiersstudy succinctly unsettles this prevailing paradigm with surgeon-like precision. In under 20 pages the authors deliver a cogent critique of the CO2-drives-climate presumption. A few of the key points include:
• CO2 only contributes about 4-5% to the greenhouse effect, whereas water vapor and clouds contribute 95%.
• Of that 4-5% greenhouse effect contribution from CO2, just 4% of that can be attributed to human activities (i.e., fossil fuel emissions). Thus, about 96% of the 4% contribution from CO2 can be attributed to natural processes…… Finish reading in link]
Over the last 25 years or so we have enabled the green cultists help destroy our entire economy while instituting thousands of energy killing regulations within all of our major industries. All of this orchestrated in order to battle a mythical villain called carbon dioxide. Something which is the primary building block for life on this planet yet has been falsely stigmatized as the greatest threat to future human survival. You really can’t make this stuff up.
Barack Obama and the leftist climate cult agenda maniacs have done more damage to the American middle class than anyone/anything else in our history. These radical cultists helped corrupt a younger generation in warping their minds and forcing most of them to take up the war on CO2.
Instead of addressing the real climate problems we have, Obama and his fellow politically driven leftists decided to fight a mythical enemy, CO2. For all those who stood by and remained silent encouraging this green hysteria and this widespread transforming of our energy sector over to this unsustainable and inefficient green system have helped destroy this nation’s economy and their children’s future.
Not only did these green drones help destroy our economy, they have made us less safe and more vulnerable to becoming destroyed by foreign adversaries like China who profited big time due to the green grift. Those who purchased and put up those solar panels have helped fund the CCP army. But how many US citizens ever contemplate this sobering fact?
Who in the MSM or cures government will enlighten people on the study below?
New Study Thoroughly Disassembles The CO2-Drives-Climate Assumption In One Fell Swoop – ‘CO2 only contributes about 4-5% to the greenhouse effect, whereas water vapor & clouds contribute 95%
https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/08/15/new-study-thoroughly-disassembles-the-co2-drives-climate-assumption-in-one-fell-swoop-co2-only-contributes-about-4-5-to-the-greenhouse-effect-whereas-water-vapor-clouds-contribute-95/
Excerpt below from full article above.
[Not only does CO2 have no discernible effect on climate, but any alleged anthropogenic role within the hypothetical greenhouse effect is not detectable either.
In recent decades there has been a concerted effort to assert it is “settled” science to characterize variability in the atmospheric CO2 concentration – assumed to be modulated by human activity – as the predominant factor in both climate change and the so-called greenhouse effect.
Science, however, is never truly settled.
A newFrontiersstudy succinctly unsettles this prevailing paradigm with surgeon-like precision. In under 20 pages the authors deliver a cogent critique of the CO2-drives-climate presumption. A few of the key points include:
• CO2 only contributes about 4-5% to the greenhouse effect, whereas water vapor and clouds contribute 95%.
• Of that 4-5% greenhouse effect contribution from CO2, just 4% of that can be attributed to human activities (i.e., fossil fuel emissions). Thus, about 96% of the 4% contribution from CO2 can be attributed to natural processes…… Finish reading in link]
@therighttothink50
LOL nice try! The “new paper that proves climate change is a hoax.”
Let's rip it apart hehe:
1. “CO₂ only makes up 4–5% of the greenhouse effect.”
That number’s way off. Multiple independent studies show CO₂ is responsible for about 20% of the greenhouse effect. Water vapour does more, but it depends on CO₂. No CO₂ “control knob,” no water vapour blanket.
By the way, you think planes don't pump millions of tons of water vapour into the atmosphere every single minute of every day?
2. “Human CO₂ is tiny compared to natural sources.”
Myth. Natural emissions and absorptions were basically balanced for thousands of years. Humans dumped an extra 40 billion tonnes a year on top. That imbalance is why CO₂ has shot from 280 ppm to 420 ppm in just 150 years. The fingerprint (isotopes, ocean chemistry) screams “fossil fuels.” That's fact.
3. “No evidence CO₂ affects radiation.”
Bullshit. We’ve measured it. Satellites literally see CO₂’s heat-trapping signature in Earth’s outgoing radiation. Ground stations have measured extra downward heat in the exact wavelengths CO₂ absorbs. Physics doesn’t care about X hot takes.
4. “It’s just the lapse rate (temperature drop with altitude).”
Yes, convection and the lapse rate matter. But that explains why it’s colder at the top of a mountain, not why the whole planet is heating up. Radiative forcing from greenhouse gases explains the warming trend. Both pieces fit together.
5. “CO₂ lags temperature, so it can’t drive warming.”
That’s Ice Age logic. Back then, orbital shifts started the warming, then CO₂ amplified it. Today the roles are reversed: humans are the source, and CO₂ is doing the heavy lifting.
This paper is a hilariously contrarian take that ignores mountains of direct evidence. The physics of CO₂ warming isn’t some fringe guess, sorry! It’s measured, observed, and used in weather forecasting every single day.
So no, this isn’t proof of a hoax. It’s just another attempt to cherry-pick a few points while brushing aside the hard data.
Try again.
LOL nice try! The “new paper that proves climate change is a hoax.”
Let's rip it apart hehe:
1. “CO₂ only makes up 4–5% of the greenhouse effect.”
That number’s way off. Multiple independent studies show CO₂ is responsible for about 20% of the greenhouse effect. Water vapour does more, but it depends on CO₂. No CO₂ “control knob,” no water vapour blanket.
By the way, you think planes don't pump millions of tons of water vapour into the atmosphere every single minute of every day?
2. “Human CO₂ is tiny compared to natural sources.”
Myth. Natural emissions and absorptions were basically balanced for thousands of years. Humans dumped an extra 40 billion tonnes a year on top. That imbalance is why CO₂ has shot from 280 ppm to 420 ppm in just 150 years. The fingerprint (isotopes, ocean chemistry) screams “fossil fuels.” That's fact.
3. “No evidence CO₂ affects radiation.”
Bullshit. We’ve measured it. Satellites literally see CO₂’s heat-trapping signature in Earth’s outgoing radiation. Ground stations have measured extra downward heat in the exact wavelengths CO₂ absorbs. Physics doesn’t care about X hot takes.
4. “It’s just the lapse rate (temperature drop with altitude).”
Yes, convection and the lapse rate matter. But that explains why it’s colder at the top of a mountain, not why the whole planet is heating up. Radiative forcing from greenhouse gases explains the warming trend. Both pieces fit together.
5. “CO₂ lags temperature, so it can’t drive warming.”
That’s Ice Age logic. Back then, orbital shifts started the warming, then CO₂ amplified it. Today the roles are reversed: humans are the source, and CO₂ is doing the heavy lifting.
This paper is a hilariously contrarian take that ignores mountains of direct evidence. The physics of CO₂ warming isn’t some fringe guess, sorry! It’s measured, observed, and used in weather forecasting every single day.
So no, this isn’t proof of a hoax. It’s just another attempt to cherry-pick a few points while brushing aside the hard data.
Try again.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Is the climate cult grift finally coming to an end? How many decades will it take to recover from this twisted and corrupt agenda?
How many lives have the climate cultists and medical tyrants destroyed? How many families have been forever affected by the dark agenda of these power seeking and money hungry control freaks, tyrants who are currently using the latest advanced technologies, not for good but as a weapon wielded in order to control the masses? Hypnotizing many naive and unaware good hearted people with lies/propaganda and sadly we witness all of this being carried out in the guise of goodness.
There is only one worse thing than a leftist and that is a phony leftist who uses the art of delusion and deception in order to gain the masses compliance in order to advance a political agenda. We have entered into a dark age of deception where the truth becomes either silenced and or unrecognizable due to this AI and advancing technology?
Will people totally succumb to this evil or finally fight back? Once we go cashless, there is no going back to a freedom based society. Did people really sign up for this post-human world where we can all clearly see its ugly head rising with more boldness with each day that passes now.
How many years will it take for people to finally wake up and figure out that the leftist climate cult agenda had nothing to do with fixing the environment but rather maintaining the corrupt politician’s grift which bestowed trillions of dollars upon the most diabolical people ever born onto this planet?
Excerpt below from full article in link above.
The Climate Alarmism Grift is Dying
https://timlynch.substack.com/p/the-climate-alarmism-grift-is-dying
[In a shocking display of academic integrity, two eminent professors published a masterfully complex paper that undermines the foundation of climate alarmism. MIT’s Richard Lindzen, Professor of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Emeritus, and Princeton’s William Happer, Professor of Physics, Emeritus, published a paper titled PHYSICS DEMONSTRATES THAT INCREASING GREENHOUSE GASES CANNOT CAUSE DANGEROUS WARMING, EXTREME WEATHER OR ANY HARM.
Their message is simple: CO2-driven warming poses no danger to the planet, while the net-zero policies designed to reduce CO2 do more harm than good. It takes a paper of serious complexity to validate such a simple message]
46 page document here…
https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Lindzen-Happer-GHGs-and-Fossil-Fuels-Climate-Physics-2025-06-07.pdf
How many lives have the climate cultists and medical tyrants destroyed? How many families have been forever affected by the dark agenda of these power seeking and money hungry control freaks, tyrants who are currently using the latest advanced technologies, not for good but as a weapon wielded in order to control the masses? Hypnotizing many naive and unaware good hearted people with lies/propaganda and sadly we witness all of this being carried out in the guise of goodness.
There is only one worse thing than a leftist and that is a phony leftist who uses the art of delusion and deception in order to gain the masses compliance in order to advance a political agenda. We have entered into a dark age of deception where the truth becomes either silenced and or unrecognizable due to this AI and advancing technology?
Will people totally succumb to this evil or finally fight back? Once we go cashless, there is no going back to a freedom based society. Did people really sign up for this post-human world where we can all clearly see its ugly head rising with more boldness with each day that passes now.
How many years will it take for people to finally wake up and figure out that the leftist climate cult agenda had nothing to do with fixing the environment but rather maintaining the corrupt politician’s grift which bestowed trillions of dollars upon the most diabolical people ever born onto this planet?
Excerpt below from full article in link above.
The Climate Alarmism Grift is Dying
https://timlynch.substack.com/p/the-climate-alarmism-grift-is-dying
[In a shocking display of academic integrity, two eminent professors published a masterfully complex paper that undermines the foundation of climate alarmism. MIT’s Richard Lindzen, Professor of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences, Emeritus, and Princeton’s William Happer, Professor of Physics, Emeritus, published a paper titled PHYSICS DEMONSTRATES THAT INCREASING GREENHOUSE GASES CANNOT CAUSE DANGEROUS WARMING, EXTREME WEATHER OR ANY HARM.
Their message is simple: CO2-driven warming poses no danger to the planet, while the net-zero policies designed to reduce CO2 do more harm than good. It takes a paper of serious complexity to validate such a simple message]
46 page document here…
https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Lindzen-Happer-GHGs-and-Fossil-Fuels-Climate-Physics-2025-06-07.pdf
@therighttothink50
Hehe another “climate hoax exposed” link.
This one leans on the usual suspects: Lindzen and Happer who’ve been saying the same thing for decades. Meanwhile, actual observations keep proving them wrong. But sure, let’s pretend the lone voices are right and the mountains of peer-reviewed science are just part of a grand conspiracy.
This crap throws around words like “grift” and “alarmism” but skips the evidence part. It insists CO₂ is harmless while conveniently ignoring the real-world signals: record heatwaves, unprecedented wildfires, rising seas, collapsing ice sheets. It cherry-picks the “CO₂ makes plants grow” talking point but forgets to mention the droughts, crop failures, and heat stress that follow. Context matters.
And the hand-wringing about how climate policy “hurts the poor”? Please. Every credible economic study shows ignoring climate change costs more—in disaster relief, infrastructure collapse, health crises, and forced migration. Inaction doesn’t save the poor; it sacrifices them.
So no, this Substack screed doesn’t expose a hoax. It’s politics in a lab coat, reheating old arguments that have already been debunked. Meanwhile, the planet keeps sending receipts in the form of hotter summers and rising seas.
But hey, tell me again about the grift.
Hehe another “climate hoax exposed” link.
This one leans on the usual suspects: Lindzen and Happer who’ve been saying the same thing for decades. Meanwhile, actual observations keep proving them wrong. But sure, let’s pretend the lone voices are right and the mountains of peer-reviewed science are just part of a grand conspiracy.
This crap throws around words like “grift” and “alarmism” but skips the evidence part. It insists CO₂ is harmless while conveniently ignoring the real-world signals: record heatwaves, unprecedented wildfires, rising seas, collapsing ice sheets. It cherry-picks the “CO₂ makes plants grow” talking point but forgets to mention the droughts, crop failures, and heat stress that follow. Context matters.
And the hand-wringing about how climate policy “hurts the poor”? Please. Every credible economic study shows ignoring climate change costs more—in disaster relief, infrastructure collapse, health crises, and forced migration. Inaction doesn’t save the poor; it sacrifices them.
So no, this Substack screed doesn’t expose a hoax. It’s politics in a lab coat, reheating old arguments that have already been debunked. Meanwhile, the planet keeps sending receipts in the form of hotter summers and rising seas.
But hey, tell me again about the grift.
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@therighttothink50
The sun is indeed responsible for climate change, but you are also right in that it is the "pollution" that our industries, cars and planes spew out (methane, water vapour, and CO2 to name the main ones) that is responsible for supercharging the natural climate warming process and cooking our planet.
As for geoengineering, this is a conspiracy theory and has not been practiced on anything like the scale to cause a change in atmospheric conditions. We may have to start doing this, though.
pollution and geoengineering, along with the sun, is the main driver of climate is what causes the climate to change.
You don't know how right you are about pollution, though not in the way you want to think. The sun is indeed responsible for climate change, but you are also right in that it is the "pollution" that our industries, cars and planes spew out (methane, water vapour, and CO2 to name the main ones) that is responsible for supercharging the natural climate warming process and cooking our planet.
As for geoengineering, this is a conspiracy theory and has not been practiced on anything like the scale to cause a change in atmospheric conditions. We may have to start doing this, though.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Cars and guns, climate change and socialism - Americans refused to address all root causes. Let's agree that death rates are high because they do, and so we can all relax and let them go.
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Have you noticed every weather report now entails high drama?
The globalists are pushing their climate agenda while ignoring the geoengineering which takes place every day.
The weather people promoting this alarmist weather narrative do this while ignoring the major culprit of earth’s degradation……geoengineering/weatherfare.
The propaganda continues as the real problems never seem to get addressed.
Fake world, fake media, ignorant people, a recipe for disaster.
Do people realize weather people have a gag order on them regarding discussing the geoengineering of our skies?
Weather Service Employees Tethered by Illegal Gag Orders
Oct 6, 2015 Tags: NWS, unethical behavior
Weather Service Employees Tethered by Illegal Gag Orders
Special Counsel Asked to Reverse Recent Raft of Blanket Nondisclosure Policies
https://peer.org/weather-service-employees-tethered-by-illegal-gag-orders/
Government Implements Illegal “Gag Order” On National Weather Service And NOAA Employees
https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/government-implements-illegal-gag-order-on-national-weather-service-and-noaa/
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
― Soren Kierkegaard
“Five percent of the people think;
ten percent of the people think they think;
and the other eighty-five percent would rather die than think.”
― Thomas A. Edison
“If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.”
― Paul Murray
The globalists are pushing their climate agenda while ignoring the geoengineering which takes place every day.
The weather people promoting this alarmist weather narrative do this while ignoring the major culprit of earth’s degradation……geoengineering/weatherfare.
The propaganda continues as the real problems never seem to get addressed.
Fake world, fake media, ignorant people, a recipe for disaster.
Do people realize weather people have a gag order on them regarding discussing the geoengineering of our skies?
Weather Service Employees Tethered by Illegal Gag Orders
Oct 6, 2015 Tags: NWS, unethical behavior
Weather Service Employees Tethered by Illegal Gag Orders
Special Counsel Asked to Reverse Recent Raft of Blanket Nondisclosure Policies
https://peer.org/weather-service-employees-tethered-by-illegal-gag-orders/
Government Implements Illegal “Gag Order” On National Weather Service And NOAA Employees
https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/government-implements-illegal-gag-order-on-national-weather-service-and-noaa/
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.”
― Soren Kierkegaard
“Five percent of the people think;
ten percent of the people think they think;
and the other eighty-five percent would rather die than think.”
― Thomas A. Edison
“If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.”
― Paul Murray
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Learn about climate engineering
https://geoengineeringwatch.org/
https://geoengineeringwatch.org/
lpthehermit · 56-60, M
and we have the pedal to the medal, in a nosedive, hit the nitrous button heading hellbent for destruction. do we need a gazillion gigantic mega super duper data centers??
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
Carbon Dioxide is vital to human life, green fanaticism is the enemy of human life…
Carbon Dioxide Benefits the World:
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/services/files/FC7C4946-11A3-4967-BF28-8D0386608D3E
Carbon Dioxide Benefits the World:
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/services/files/FC7C4946-11A3-4967-BF28-8D0386608D3E
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Except for those paid shills and mouth breathing knuckle draggers on social media who prefer to use data from the late devonian period to prove that a world populated by volcanos and not much else was just as bad..😷
Confined · 56-60, M
Who ever believes that stand on your head.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
WRONG.
Pay a scientist enough money and he'll tell you the moon is made out of green cheese.
Pay a scientist enough money and he'll tell you the moon is made out of green cheese.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Reason10 Who is paying them? What evidence for you have that this is happening?
What about the ones bring paid by big oil? By your own standard, you can't believe them either.
What about the ones bring paid by big oil? By your own standard, you can't believe them either.
ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M
@Reason10 so why does the fossil fuel industry, with their Mariana-Trench-deep pockets, not do that?