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Just How Close Was the 2024 Presidential Election?

Electoral Votes *
312 Trump
226 Harris
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*270 needed to win

Popular Vote
77,302,580 Trump
75,017,613 Harris

% of the Popular Vote
49.8% Trump
48.3% Harris

Pennsylvania
3,543,308 ... 50.37% Trump
3,423,042 ... 48.66% Harris
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120,266 - a flip of 60,134 votes gives Harris the state's 19 electoral votes

Michigan
2,816,636 ... 49.73% Trump
2,736,533 ... 48.31% Harris
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70,103 - a flip of 25,052 votes gives Harris the state's 15 electoral votes

Wisconsin
1,697,626 ... 49.60% Trump
1,668,229 ... 48.74% Harris
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29,387 - a flip of 14,699 votes gives Harris the state's 10 electoral votes

A flip of 99,885 votes in the above three states as noted would have given Harris 44 more electoral votes - and the presidency, 270-268.
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Not very close counts in horseshoes and hand grenades and popular vote doesn't matter the electoral college does
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@rocknroll

You obviously don't understand how the Electoral College works.
RedBaron · M
@beckyromero Oh come on, it’s not hard to understand how it works.

You’re just condescending to rocknroll.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@RedBaron

It's the popular vote in a given state that determines who wins the Electoral College votes in that state. Get 270 Electoral Votes and you win.

So, yes, regardless what @rocknroll mistakenly believes, the popular vote does matter.
RedBaron · M
@beckyromero Obviously that’s how it works. Try to a bit more condescending next time.

But my point is that analyzing the popular vote after the fact is pointless and accomplishes nothing, because there’s no changing the outcome and similar numbers of votes swing many elections in one direction or the other.

As I said elsewhere, these vagaries worked for Trump in 2016 and 2024 and against him in 2020.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@RedBaron
But my point is that analyzing the popular vote after the fact is pointless and accomplishes nothing, because there’s no changing the outcome and similar numbers of votes swing many elections in one direction or the other.

Obviously not trying to change the outcome. But was making a point about how close the election was - contrary to the many voices from the MAGAs here and elsewhere who really do believe Trump's claim that his election was a blowout, mandate, landslide or whatever other adjective he chooses to use on a given day.

The point of the post is to help combat that baseless narrative.

I may think it was a close election and you may think it was a close election. But countless people fall into Trump's trap and really haven't taken a good look at the numbers. Perhaps even more so for our non-American friends who might not understand the intricacies of how the Electoral College system works.

The numbers also show just how close Kamala Harris came to winning. Despite all the detractors who claim she was a flawed candidate, could have never won, shouldn't run again, etc.
RedBaron · M
@beckyromero I blame Biden more than Harris. He had business to honor his promise to serve only one term and to step aside before the election cycle commenced.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@RedBaron
I blame Biden more than Harris. He had business to honor his promise to serve only one term ...

Biden never made such a pledge or promise.
@beckyromero not many do