Quick way to double your energy costs: Get 2/3rds of your electricity from renewables.

Photo above - America's original solution to fossil fuel electricity generation.

The national average for electricity is 17 cents per kWh. In California, it’s 37 cents. More than double. (see link at bottom). If you’re paying less than 17 cents, count your blessings. If you’re paying more than California’s 37 cent rate, congrats on living in Hawaii.

Okay, I can manage my electric bill SOMEWHAT by turning up the thermostat to 78 degrees in summer. Buying a smaller refrigerator. Unplugging my “vampire” OLED TV when I'm not watching anything. Grilling outdoors instead of using the oven. Oh wait . . . that’s probably going to cost more in the end.

But what about buying an electric car? If you think is math is hard, stop reading here. Okay, are the smart people ready to proceed?

An average American EV needs 35 kWh to travel 100 miles. That electricity costs $0.37 per kWh in California. I would spend $12.60 to go 100 miles. If I drive 1,000 miles a month, that’s $126 in fuel cost. Possibly more if I’m ever trapped in a freeway traffic jam.

But I already have a Honda Civic Hybrid (purchased in November, in Florida.) It gets 50 mpg. A gallon of gas costs $3.19 this week. To go 100 miles it would cost me $6.40. To go 1,000 miles that would be $64. Plus, I earn 2% cashback rewards when I buy gas on my credit card. I get zilch when I write a check to the electric company - just a reminder in my next bill to turn off the lights when they’re not in use.

Okay, I agree that these numbers are scary. And electricity costs are rising much faster than inflation. There seems to be no way to reverse this. No, I am NOT suggesting trading in your EV on a gas car. EV trade-in values have tanked recently, probably because of high electric rates and vandalized charging stations.

Fed Chairman Powell isn’t going to tame electricity costs by jacking up the Fed Funds rates even more. Congress and the White House could continue to pass out huge grants, subsidies, and tax breaks for the electricity flavor of the month, but that’s what got us into this mess in the first place.

And kWh hungry AI is growing exponentially. More server farms. More electric cars. Electric cooktops will replace natural gas. Natural gas furnaces and hot water heaters are also on death row. There’s no good news here.

Maybe I should set my air conditioning to 80 degrees? Or build my own nuclear power plant like Amazon is doing? Actually, Amazon is building 4 dedicated nuclear power plants to operate it's AI stuff. Don't ask where the spent fuel is going to be stored . . .

I’m just sayin’ . . .

CA running 67% on ‘clean’ energy; prices double US average

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SW-User

As usual, a masterclass in cherry-picking worst case scenarios, ignoring counterpoints, and wrapping it all up in sarcasm to make it seem "obvious".

Let's look at your crap in more detail.

The national average for electricity is 17 cents per kWh. In California, it’s 37 cents.”

Sure, if you wanna compare California’s peak-tier residential rates to national averages and pretend that’s what every EV owner is paying (and you do). Spoiler alert: most EV owners charge at night when rates are lower (like 12–15¢/kWh). Some even use solar, which costs… oh right, nothing.

I would spend $12.60 to go 100 miles in an EV.

Sure, if you’re charging at peak rates in California while running a bitcoin farm on the side. Most EV drivers pay half that (or less). Many EVs also use closer to 25–30 kWh/100 miles, not 35.

Math is hard when you cherry-pick worst-case scenarios, isn't it?

My Honda Civic Hybrid gets 50 mpg. It only costs me $6.40 to go 100 miles

Wow, you're amazing. Congratulations! A Civic Hybrid is efficient, sure. But let’s not pretend gas prices are stable or that you’re not still polluting. Plus, EVs have far lower maintenance costs (no oil changes, spark plugs, timing belts, etc). And if you drive in traffic? EVs sip electrons while idling; your Civic doesn’t.

I earn 2% cashback on gas… I get zilch when I write a check to the electric company.”

WOW! A check! You do know you can pay electric bills using a credit card, right? Also, if your financial strategy hinges on 2% cashback, I don't think EVs are your problem 🤣

Electricity costs are rising much faster than inflation.

True I guess, mostly due to wildfires, grid upgrades and decades of underinvestment.

But no, the problem is solar panels, right?

Maybe I should build my own nuclear power plant like Amazon is doing?

OMG! Amazon isn’t literally building reactors in Jeff Bezos’ backyard. They’re signing long-term power purchase agreements from existing nuclear suppliers. Big difference. But potato potatoe.

EV trade-in values have tanked.

They’ve dropped somewhat, yes; mainly because new EV prices are falling (which is good for buyers) and because supply is finally catching up.

But have you seen what a used ICE car is worth after 3 years? It’s also not great, is it...?

There's no way to reverse this.

Oh no, the horror!

Meanwhile, back in the real world, renewables are booming, battery tech is improving, EV adoption is growing massively, and smart grids are becoming the norm.

The future don't come with an ICE. Deal with it.

SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F

@SW-User i provided links. you responded with an unhinged rant.

additionally, you are incorrect about credit cards. in many places you cannot use them to pay for government services and utilities. not water. not sewer. not municipal electricity. not property taxes. no trash collection.

SW-User

@SusanInFlorida My "unhinged" rant was factual, and your links may be factual too, but as I pointed out, that was a worst-case scenario which you were happy to latch on to.