The Big Beautiful Bill: Your thoughts?

@SunshineGirl We will all be paying for everything in our futures. We are still paying for the covid lockdowns.

@emiliya Covid lockdowns produced a tangible gain and ensured that millions of people did not die needlessly and actually have a future. It is difficult to see how this legislation will benefit any more than a handful of the most privileged Americans.

@emiliya You seriously think living through high inflation is more miserable than dying from Covid?

Incidentally, what do you think the economic consequences would have been of reducing the American population by say 1.5 million?

@SunshineGirl “You seriously think living through high inflation is more miserable than dying from Covid?”

Yes, I do. The question is: why don't you?

“Incidentally, what do you think the economic consequences would have been of reducing the American population by say 1.5 million?”

Perhaps Americans should be healthier if they want to avoid complications from a mild respiratory virus.

@emiliya Because I place more value on a single human life than on an abstraction.

I asked about the economic consequences, not the health. A clue. Reductions in the headcount of the workforce are likely to place pressure on wages and drive up prices . . as we have already seen post-pandemic. Reductions in the consumer base are likely to lead to recession.

@SunshineGirl How privileged are you? The economy is not abstract. It is the most real thing we have in practical terms. Where are you without money?

You talk about reductions in the workplace when millions of jobs were lost. Millions of businesses were lost. This is time, money, and effort that was lost. To the working person, it is food on the table. This is all over a minor respiratory virus that the majority survive with or without the jab.

@emiliya I am real. Money is not. Step back and put your life in perspective.

@SunshineGirl Are you? Money is more real than you and I. When we are gone, it will continue to keep the world spinning.

@SunshineGirl NOTHING in the bill says that. Read the bill or shut up. A or B.

@Reason10 You are right. The act contains no details of how its expensive bribes are to be paid for.

@SunshineGirl What are your solutions? You liberals have all kinds of crazy ideas.

@emiliya Fiscal rectitude. I wouldn't commit to trillions of dollars of tax cuts without specifying how these are to be paid for. But I guess that is the sort of crazy liberal I am.

@SunshineGirl They are paid for through economic growth, issuing debt, and money creation by the Federal Reserve.

@emiliya Economic growth is not guaranteed. Increased borrowing is the whole point of the post. It is easy to borrow and print more money. Eventually someone has to pay.

@SunshineGirl Someone also has to pay for the dinghy divers and their ongoing accommodation costs. They do not come to your country with money. UK government spends millions a day on people who, in their hundreds every day, are smuggled into UK by sea.

@emiliya Why on earth have you turned this round to the subject of immigration scross the English Channel?

@SunshineGirl You are concerned about costs. I am saying that welcoming smuggled illegal migrants who cross English Channel is very expensive too. You pay millions every day to put them in accommodation and for other things. Why does UK do it?

@emiliya Right wing populists like making people suffer. The most rational solution would be to process most applications in France. But this is politically unviable due to the influence of the right wing press.

@SunshineGirl It is not the influence of right-wing press or politicians. It is the will of the British people. The polls say they do not want more foreigners, legal or illegal. It is too late for the British. They are going to be a minority in my lifetime. In the next twenty to forty years, this is what will happen.

Why do you want all these peoples in UK?

@SunshineGirl How can you be a friend of humanity when humanity is not friendly?

I am a foreigner too. I am one who will assimilate in the countries I live in. I learn about their history and try to understand their views. Most foreigners, including my family, do not. They do not convert to the religion and they make their house and their circle a separate nation. Those who do adopt the customs adopt the wrong customs, like abortion, Free Palestine, homosexuality, transsexuality, and so on.

@emiliya UK attitudes towards immigration are among the most liberal in Europe . . only Norway among a group of 13 countries surveyed is more positive towards immigration.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-of-concern/

Immigration is a fact of life. No amount of scowling at foreigners and handwringing has or ever will have any impact on the key drivers of immigration. So why not embrace it and play a part in directing it as a force for economic and social renewal? You might just find it helps you to feel better about yourself.