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Energy companies spent $212 billion on new plants this year. But just to feed data centers. Adopting LEDs and efficient appliances was pointless.



Photo above – cast members of the CGI generated Netflix show “Resident Alien” try to figure out why there’s always snow on the street winter and summer, but their breath never makes vapor in the cold air. “This-is-some-bullshit” agrees alien Harry Vanderspiegle (in human guise), on the right.

Money spent on new US electric plants is skyrocketing. Up $40 billion over the prior year alone. Up 130% over the past decade. I’m going to turn my thermostat to 75 and switch off the night lights at home to see if that helps. No, it didn’t . . . my meter is still spinning like crazy. The government says electricity inflation is “normal”. I guess normal means rising 5% a year. My bill is up 25% since 2021.

No, I don’t have an electric water heater, and I don't take insanely long hot showers. I don’t have an EV or plug in hybrid. My cooktop is electric induction – they don’t get any more efficient than that. I’d blame my neighbors with EVs and $7,500 tax credits, but they’re not the problem.

The problem is “data centers”. Giant buildings filled with computers. The largest in the USA is in Nevada. 8 million square feet. Bigger than the pentagon. But there are hundreds more. These data centers are training AI how to surf the net to violate copyrights for literature, paintings, and photos. So that we can get pink slips saying we’ve been replaced by ChatGPT, Gemini, or Llama. So “quants” can use AI to flash trade stocks in milliseconds, and make the idea of long-term investment in a 401K pointless.

People will just have to sit home and binge on Netflix. Which has 3,657 original shows, mostly rendered by CGI and Artificial Intelligence. If you doubt this, just pay closer attention to your favorite shows. The wind doesn’t blow outdoors, and there’s no vapor when actors speak on a winter's day.

This is why America is doubling its electrical demand, and my bill is going through the roof.

I'd send an email to my congressperson to complain. Except the CoPilot logo pops up at the top of MS Word, and wants to write it for me, before I even hit the first key. And when I press the send button, I’m pretty sure I’m going to get an AI generated response from my congressman’s office.

Can we just cut out the middleman, and replace all the politicians with ChatGPT? If everything is going to be done with AI, government officials are the most irrelevant thing in America.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

US energy groups spend record sums on power plants to feed data centres
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joe438 · 61-69, M
The energy efficient options merely help you use less power to save money. If you didn’t use them, your bill would be higher. The per-unit cost of power is indeed climbing at a rapid rate and it’s just going to get worse. Hopefully done if the relaxing of energy procurement rules will help slow that increase.

I didn’t know the numbers of data center usage. If those are accurate, it raises the question of why we need so much more computing power and storage. But we all pay for it even though we pay a bit less because of the LEDs
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@joe438 thats not why it became federal law. no regulation from DC was ever implemented to "save taxpayers money".

elimination of incandescent bulbs, arc lights, resistance coil stoves, resistance coil home heating, etc was PURELY intended to relieve demand on an overburdened grid.
joe438 · 61-69, M
@SusanInFlorida there was also a bit of snake oil about global warming mixed in,
@joe438 SO close...
oldguy73 · 70-79, M
there is a bitcion mining company not far from me, people complain all the time, it pollutes the beautiful lake there, i hear they use unbelievable amounts of electric and gas, i don't know about that bitcion mining, but is seems very controversial
There are 25M types of bitcoin with more being created daily. Each of those 25M is mining 24/7 as fast and expensively as possible. @oldguy73
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@oldguy73 bitcoin mining is very energy intensive. there are 2 ways to go about it.

1 - construct massive data centers - preferable in northern lattitudes, where the need for cooling is less - and mine them on an "industrial scale"

2 - write malware to hijack thousands (millions?) of laptops, and use their "idle" cycle time to mine bitcoin for the benefit of the malware originator.
oldguy73 · 70-79, M
I totally agree with you on this issue
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@SomeMichGuy i watched a tik-tok video last night about some guy in indonesia who made his own backyard hydroelectric dam. It took about $1,000 in parts, and 2 weeks in labor (excavation, concrete, etc). The entire thing was about 10 feet long and 6 feet high when he got it done.

It produced enough electricity to run one light bulb. The video got thousands of upvotes.
@SusanInFlorida μ-generation like THAT won't help, but getting more ppl off-grid can...
jehova · 31-35, M
Thats rediculous. I have high hopes for wind power especially kite turbines. Its a delicate balance though. Rumor has it a kite turbine improperly balanced resulted in hurricane katrina.
A kite wind turbine generates 1 terawatt (10^12th watts) aka 1000 giga watts aka 1 billion kilowatts an hour.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jehova i think wind turbines hold more long term promise than solar panels, which are "off" at least half the day.

I don't know much about kite turbines, but i hope no airplanes stray into the cables anchoring them into the ground. And no terrorists cut the cables.

offshore wind turbines seem the most promising. Except for the Chinese World's Largest Offshore Wind Turbine, which broke apart in a thunderstorm earlier this year.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida i hadnt heard about the chinese one, but per the cable anchoring the kite to the ground. It could easily be kept out of known\most commonly used air paths. And itd allow for energy freedom\ reduced reliance on steam generstion.
Export energy to generate revenue to pay the nation's debt.
We gotta do something.
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The link is in the seat of his pants with his brain. @SusanInFlorida
@SusanInFlorida It's cute that the lady who hardly EVER provides links would demand one🤣😂
She requested it quite politely. @ElwoodBlues
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Number 3 for sure. You omitted them increasing their own revenue stream likely their first official act. @SusanInFlorida
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@jackjjackson i think a fully protected, outage-proof electrical supply would be the highest priority of a sentient government AI computer.

like free oxygen water and food for people is.
Makes sense. It’s what they’d spend the revenue in anyways. @SusanInFlorida

 
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