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basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Is Iran hiding their nuclear weapons in the same place Iraq was hiding their WMDs?
@basilfawlty89 not resetting, that stays locked, that system is locked to protect humanity, IT cannot proceed just locked
CedricH · 22-25, M
@basilfawlty89 Iran, just like Iraq, doesn’t possess nuclear weapons. The US did find the components that were necessary and sufficient for Saddam Hussein‘s reactivation of Iraq‘s temporarily dormant WMD programs.
Iraq had:
1. Trained scientists and engineers who had worked on the earlier nuclear program.
2. Dual-use equipment that could support a nuclear effort.
3. Documentation and design know-how from earlier efforts.
4. A desire (on Saddam’s part) to someday resume the program if sanctions ended.
U.S. intelligence analysts and postwar investigators did assess that Iraq retained some of the technical expertise and infrastructure that could, in theory, allow it to restart its nuclear weapons program at a future date
Iraq had:
1. Trained scientists and engineers who had worked on the earlier nuclear program.
2. Dual-use equipment that could support a nuclear effort.
3. Documentation and design know-how from earlier efforts.
4. A desire (on Saddam’s part) to someday resume the program if sanctions ended.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@CedricH but still no WMDs. Which after Saddam, what happened? Oh, right! ISIS!
Which only led to mass slaughter of Assyrians and Yezidis. No biggie, right?
Which only led to mass slaughter of Assyrians and Yezidis. No biggie, right?
CedricH · 22-25, M
@basilfawlty89 A big biggie. And completely avoidable had Obama not foolishly and against the advise of Bush administration officials, Obama’s own intelligence and military advisers and against the advise of most Iraq experts in D.C withdrawn all US forces from Iraq by 2011 and had he not refused to negotiate a comprehensive status of forces agreement with Iraqi PM Nouri al Maliki.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@CedricH yet you lot took 20 years in Afghanistan to replace the Taliban...with the Taliban. How'd that work out?
CedricH · 22-25, M
@basilfawlty89 What can I say? The withdrawal in 2021 was both wrong and gratuitous, but more importantly, Obama‘s successful surge and counter-insurgency approach from 2009-2011 was needlessly cut short by him. By 2011 you had close to 100.000 US troops in the country. By 2016, that number had fallen to 9.000.
Afghanistan could’ve been won, but no President, including Bush, cared enough to appropriate enough time, resources and credible commitment to achieve whatever might pass as a strategic victory.
Afghanistan could’ve been won, but no President, including Bush, cared enough to appropriate enough time, resources and credible commitment to achieve whatever might pass as a strategic victory.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@CedricH buddy, America hasn't won a war since WW2.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@basilfawlty89 The US won in the Dominican Republic (1965), Grenada (1983), the Tanker War (1987/88), Panama (1989), the Gulf War (1990/91), Haiti (1994), Bosnia (1995), Kosovo (1999), Iraq (2003-2011), and the Counter-ISIS campaign (2014-2019), buddy.