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CedricH · 22-25, M
@iamthe99 IDF operations in Gaza are evidently covered by Chapter VII Article 51 of the UN Charta, correct. Iran‘s attacks on Israel last year, however, were not. Iran has launched its undeclared war on Israel long ago, but the official, interstate missile and drone barrages last year were but the starkest reminder of Iran‘s aggressive behavior.
iamthe99 · M
@CedricH Have you lost the plot entirely? Everything the IDF is doing in Gaza is, in your opinion, justified?? With an international arrest warrant out against Netanyahu for war crimes and crimes against humanity??
Iran's missile strikes last year were in response, tit-for-tat, to Israel's. Both regimes knew it.
What Israel is doing now is illegal. Here are some facts.
Israel has launched an unprovoked onslaught on Iran. Its excuse, that Iran may acquire a nuclear weapon, renders its attack illegal under the UN charter, which forbids wars justified by the claim of a future threat.
The G7 claims: “Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror,”
Even though Donald Trump’s intelligence chief testified three months ago that the US intelligence community “continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon”.
Even though it’s Israel that actually possesses nuclear weapons, while refusing to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and refusing International Atomic Energy Agency inspections.
Even though, as progress was being made in nuclear talks between Iran and the US, Israel targeted Iran’s chief negotiator and proceeded to exterminate scientists, including their families, alongside countless other civilians, including children, an athlete, a teacher, a pilates instructor.
Even though Nethanyahu is subject to an arrest warrant, accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
And even though Israel has erased Gaza in a genocidal frenzy, and subjected the illegally occupied and colonised West Bank to an escalating pogrom, attacked southern Lebanon and Beirut, and invaded and occupied Syria.
No country in the Middle East is as great a source of regional instability and terror as Israel.
It’s not even close.
Those are the facts. Suck them up.
Iran's missile strikes last year were in response, tit-for-tat, to Israel's. Both regimes knew it.
What Israel is doing now is illegal. Here are some facts.
Israel has launched an unprovoked onslaught on Iran. Its excuse, that Iran may acquire a nuclear weapon, renders its attack illegal under the UN charter, which forbids wars justified by the claim of a future threat.
The G7 claims: “Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror,”
Even though Donald Trump’s intelligence chief testified three months ago that the US intelligence community “continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon”.
Even though it’s Israel that actually possesses nuclear weapons, while refusing to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and refusing International Atomic Energy Agency inspections.
Even though, as progress was being made in nuclear talks between Iran and the US, Israel targeted Iran’s chief negotiator and proceeded to exterminate scientists, including their families, alongside countless other civilians, including children, an athlete, a teacher, a pilates instructor.
Even though Nethanyahu is subject to an arrest warrant, accused of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
And even though Israel has erased Gaza in a genocidal frenzy, and subjected the illegally occupied and colonised West Bank to an escalating pogrom, attacked southern Lebanon and Beirut, and invaded and occupied Syria.
No country in the Middle East is as great a source of regional instability and terror as Israel.
It’s not even close.
Those are the facts. Suck them up.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@iamthe99 Oy. Mate. You‘re wrong.
No, Israel and Iran were arguably already at war, at least since Iran blatantly attacked Israel twice last year. To dismiss an act of war as a negligible tit-for-tat confrontation might work in your world, but in the real world Iran declared war on Israel last year. So any Israeli attacks on Iran now automatically amount to self-defense.
And you‘re correct, Israel is a nuclear power and I‘m glad it is since it had to fend off one existential invasion threat after another since before its independence.
In international law, preventative actions are generally frowned upon. That’s generally accurate. The pre-emptive use of force, however, is largely accepted as a legal justification for military action.
In any case, as I’ve said, since Iran and Israel were already at war with each other - a war Iran gratuitously forced on Israel - nothing Israel now does is strictly preventative. The threat has already materialized and metastasized, just ask the victims of the April and October 2024 attacks.
The ICC has gone off the rails and the US has already wisely sanctioned it. It‘s time for the ICC to be either structurally revamped or to be dismantled. Their antisemitic prejudice is an insult to international law and ethics. And the main prosecutor is probably a sex offender.
And yes, everything Israel does in Gaza is in line with Israel‘s right to self-defense. It’s a regrettable, even tragic, situation that Hamas is to blame for. But I see light at the end of the tunnel, soon Hamas will be no more and then Gaza can be rebuild in peace.
Israel launched an unprovoked onslaught on Iran. Its excuse, that Iran may acquire a nuclear weapon, renders its attack illegal under the UN charter, which forbids wars justified by the claim of a future threat.
No, Israel and Iran were arguably already at war, at least since Iran blatantly attacked Israel twice last year. To dismiss an act of war as a negligible tit-for-tat confrontation might work in your world, but in the real world Iran declared war on Israel last year. So any Israeli attacks on Iran now automatically amount to self-defense.
Even though, as progress was being made in nuclear talks
No progress at all. The Iranian position never changed, even after Israel‘s campaign was initiated. Their obstinacy will be their undoing. And you‘re correct, Israel is a nuclear power and I‘m glad it is since it had to fend off one existential invasion threat after another since before its independence.
In international law, preventative actions are generally frowned upon. That’s generally accurate. The pre-emptive use of force, however, is largely accepted as a legal justification for military action.
In any case, as I’ve said, since Iran and Israel were already at war with each other - a war Iran gratuitously forced on Israel - nothing Israel now does is strictly preventative. The threat has already materialized and metastasized, just ask the victims of the April and October 2024 attacks.
The ICC has gone off the rails and the US has already wisely sanctioned it. It‘s time for the ICC to be either structurally revamped or to be dismantled. Their antisemitic prejudice is an insult to international law and ethics. And the main prosecutor is probably a sex offender.
And yes, everything Israel does in Gaza is in line with Israel‘s right to self-defense. It’s a regrettable, even tragic, situation that Hamas is to blame for. But I see light at the end of the tunnel, soon Hamas will be no more and then Gaza can be rebuild in peace.
CedricH · 22-25, M
@BabyLonia The IAF attacked a compound next to the consulate which housed a high ranking Iranian military-intelligence official who was actively planning and coordinating ongoing attacks by Hamas and Hezbollah et al on Israel at the time. That made him a legitimate target and any Iranian response to that targeted assassination against the State of Israel, therefore, wasn’t covered by self-defense. Neither was Iran‘s October attack. If you harbor terrorists who are at war with Israel, you open yourself up to precise, proportionate, and legal attacks aimed at these specific individuals such as Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran. Unless, of course, you think it was illegal for the US to go after the Taliban post-9/11 for sheltering and otherwise aiding Al Qaeda.
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