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Let's Be Honest. There Are Some Differences BetweenTactics of ICE and the Nazi Gestapo: Rounding People Up Without Warrants, Without Due Process...

throwing those arrested in cells for weeks, not allowing contact with family or friends...

The Gestapo didn't wear masks.

(And this is by no means to minimize the crimes against humanity that Nazi Germany committed. But this is how the Nazi regime started. It's how Mussolini's Squadristi started. It's how Putin consolidated power. It's how even Sulla started, with his proscription lists over 2100 years ago.)

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Gardeners reportedly taken by ICE agents while mowing outside California home

Neighbors are concerned after a Southern California man said his two gardeners were reportedly taken by federal immigration agents as they were working outside his home.

On Thursday morning, Christopher Ames said his gardeners were mowing the lawn outside his house in Ontario, Calif. His neighbors, who had witnessed the men being taken into custody, quickly alerted him to the incident.

“They left the lawnmower running right here on the front lawn,” Ames said. “They threw my gardeners’ phones in their [work truck], along with the car keys, left everything open and just took off.”

Neighbors who learned of the arrests said they were a bit stunned.

“I just think that’s wrong,” Ames told Nexstar’s KTLA. “This is not the way we treat people, and this is not the way this country should be acting.”

Luis said the two men were reportedly taken by agents with ICE, and they have not been able to contact them.

“They were my family, and we’re living in fear,” he said.

A neighbor named Rose said she watched the arrests from her home across the street.

“I understand people are just doing their jobs and people are here illegally,” she said. “I get the entire picture. But to be scooped up in such a way, I just hope that they had the opportunity to reach out to their families.”

With the men’s cellphones left behind, Rose said she is concerned they would have no way to contact loved ones to let them know of their detainment, leaving them in distress.

“As a mom and a wife, if I’m expecting someone to come home and they don’t come home and I have no way of reaching them or finding them, that’s the scary part,” she said.


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5360875-california-gardener-immigration-raid-report/
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Obama was deporter in chief. Alternatives aren't the Dems. Dems ain't no different from Trump.
You don't need no alternatives!
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@BohemianBabe saying they're not fascists is to stick with fascism, both parties of fascism. No way Americans have any other plans. You're bipartisan. You will have this politics. It's killing you fast. So we all want no change. Hating Dems is moot. Politics is moot. Deaths are real. Gahead. Together a united two party country at war everywhere. I agree!!!
@Roundandroundwego Dude, as bad as the Democrats are, they never tried to end America's democracy. Republicans tried to do that in 2021, with the Fake Electors Plot, now they're trying again with Project 2025.

Words need to have meaning. Fascists can't just be people we don't like, they have to be people who are actually doing Fascism. People who are reactionary and authoritarian, like the Republicans, not just push-overs who let the Faschos do whatever they want, like the Democrats.
@BohemianBabe Dems keep alternatives off the ballot and limit what choices people can know about. Certainly that's good enough for Americans. Democracy without actually having choice. You win! That's why we can't stand the West.
@Roundandroundwego Yes, that's why we need to push the Democrats to have rank-choice voting. And that's working, more and more states are allowing rank-choice voting, which is the only way third parties have a chance. By that only works if we have democratic elections in the first place, which Republicans want to eliminate.

We agree, we want more democracy, we want more opportunity for outside politicians. But that doesn't happen under Fascism.
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Obama was deporter in chief.

Why are you telling me that? I didn't vote for him.

In fact, I have voted against him FIVE TIMES in my lifetime.