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Is This Why Egg Sales Are Up (in USA)

This came up in this morning's edition of More Or Less, the BBC Radio Four statistics-magazine that examines the claims made by politicians, journalists, advertisers and campaigners, often finding them deeply flawed.


President Trump had reckoned the price of eggs has fallen by 400%.


That means, by his simple example price, if a carton of eggs had cost $10, the shop now gives you $30 to take it away!

I must admit I had to use my calculator to understand the explanation, but it goes like this:


Any reduction of n% means the Sale price = Original Price - [n% of Original]

So if we start at $10, 50% reduction clearly halves the price: 10 - (10 X 50/100) = $5.

90% reduction gives 10 - (10 X 90/100) = 10 - 9 = $1.

You might expect 100% off to make the eggs free. Indeed it does: 10 - (10 X 100/100) = $0

So Mr.Trump's claim comes to

10 - (10 X 400/100) = 10 - 40 = $-30 (i.e. minus-thirty Dollars) so free eggs plus $30 from the unfortunate shopkeeper!

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Tim Harford, the economist who presents the programme, did explain the price of eggs generally in America has lowered thanks to greater availability by recovery from an avian-flu epidemic, and imports. Not by 400% though! Nearer $40% (So down to $6 by his example cost.)
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Politicians be politicians.....

Oh, don't worry our home-grown ones in Britain are not always much more numerate; and for anything technical most are hopelessly naive. (Think of Boris Johnson's ideas to create an artificial island in the Thames Estuary for an airport, and allegedly at least, a tunnel connecting Ireland and Scotland at their closest points. Or HS2, by all parties.)

As simple numbers game though, I recall one Opposition MP becoming so excited at the Government having reversed some decision, she exclaimed,

"... that's a complete 360-degree turn!"
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Exaggeration is a normal politicians tool. Yet Trump takes it to a level that goes far beyond the level of exaggeration.

I caught Newsom making such a exaggeration yesterday when he said the Trump wants to arrest him when it was his immigration czar that said it.

It was a small exaggeration though in comparison.
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@DeWayfarer the immigration czar represents POTUS. ThAt POTUS did not correct the statement is germane!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@samueltyler2 A politicians tools is exact wording though.

Trump can never do it. Newsom can.
pdockal · 56-60, M
They aren't up
5 doz went from 42 to 4 recently
This matters what in the scheme of serious issues? The man made a mistatement .. how does that affect anything? This is the most useless Trump bashing post I've yet seen .. I mean seriously, he offers so much more important stuff to debate. FFS get serious.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@ArishMell

WRONG .... do the actual math before you make a disparaging comment ... i did the math ...
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
@BrandNewMan Well, irrespective of party politics senior politicians of any country should have a good grasp of fiscal arithmetic, but anyone can make mistakes and I accept Donald Trump may simply have misquoted the number in the heat of the moment.

Many of the items on the More Or Less programme are questions by listeners who spot odd discrepancies or incredible claims in political speeches, newspaper reports, advertisements and campaigns of one sort of another; and very many of the numbers involved are percentages. I have the impression percentages are poorly-understood by many but too well understood by others!
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
trump is too addled to understand arithmetic.

 
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