zonavar68 · 56-60, M
A lot of people believe the concept of UBI (Universal Basic Income) is the solution, but how do you define what that is? The legal minimum wage in whichever country you live in?
For example, my job pays well above the minimum wage for Australia but it's 24/7/365 shiftwork with a pay structure that 'aggregates' payments for working nights and weekends (same hrly rate regardless unless do overtime). If the job only paid the legal minimum wage (currently A$24.17 per hr which is equivalent to US$15.62 per hr), nobody would do it.
Then how do you take into account stuff like all the various types of shiftwork, how to remunerate for doing extra shifts (or will that not happen under a UBI framework?), etc.
How do you take into account people who work in professional jobs like engineering, medical, business, finance, transport, etc. that have long university-study pathways to get those jobs?
My job is in transport btw, but I've never been a manager or similar.
It ties in with the WEF's proposed 'own nothing be happy' mantra where everything becomes a service you don't own your home, your car, your household appliances, and you are *prevented* from *owning outright* unless you are in the elite/corporate/executive social class.
For example, my job pays well above the minimum wage for Australia but it's 24/7/365 shiftwork with a pay structure that 'aggregates' payments for working nights and weekends (same hrly rate regardless unless do overtime). If the job only paid the legal minimum wage (currently A$24.17 per hr which is equivalent to US$15.62 per hr), nobody would do it.
Then how do you take into account stuff like all the various types of shiftwork, how to remunerate for doing extra shifts (or will that not happen under a UBI framework?), etc.
How do you take into account people who work in professional jobs like engineering, medical, business, finance, transport, etc. that have long university-study pathways to get those jobs?
My job is in transport btw, but I've never been a manager or similar.
It ties in with the WEF's proposed 'own nothing be happy' mantra where everything becomes a service you don't own your home, your car, your household appliances, and you are *prevented* from *owning outright* unless you are in the elite/corporate/executive social class.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@zonavar68 They've done successful ubi experiments in other countries I don't know the details though.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@zonavar68 Here you go and from my understanding it was despite job or income. Also it's meant to only cover emergencies and food, stuff like that. But you are right to ask those questions.
https://globalaffairs.org/commentary-and-analysis/blogs/multiple-countries-have-tested-universal-basic-income-and-it-works
https://globalaffairs.org/commentary-and-analysis/blogs/multiple-countries-have-tested-universal-basic-income-and-it-works
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
So maybe turn the problem around.. Instead of saying how do you fix these problems where you are. How about asking where you can go that these problems dont exist? Not everywhere is America..😷
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@whowasthatmaskedman I've looked into it and it's way harder than what it sounds period. I've looked all this up already. I'm glad it's so easy for you but countries have all these restrictions and stuff.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SatanBurger Its true that many doors are shut right now. Maybe you need skills you dont have. I know qualified nurses can travel almost anywhere. (I'm not telling you to go be a nurse. Its an example) But there are ways..😷
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@whowasthatmaskedman I might do it, I was considering traveling nursing
TheShanachie · 61-69, M
I’m a boomer that believes in you.
Elisbch · M
Someone laughed (emoji) but didn't comment. I fail to see anything remotely funny about this. How about the laugher try homelessness for 5 years and get back to me.... if you're still alive. 🤷🙄
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