Our UK media is bending over backwards to “humanise” the man accused of mowing down 79 people..

@JonUK41 so you’re excusing his behaviour. He had already started driving into the crowd before his car was attacked.

This is attempted murder.

@iamthe99 No idea who the guy is or what his motives were so can't comment.

Did you see the footage of the fans attacking his car?

@JonUK41 I simply would not be there.

The celebrations were publicised well in advance

@JonUK41 They attacked his car after he had ploughed into pedestrians and it had come to a standstill. He was assisted by at least two police officers.

@SunshineGirl And people will now suffer trauma for the rest of their lives. Including children.

@SunshineGirl agreed. But @JonUK41 is of the opinion that the suspect is actually the victim.

@iamthe99 I wasn't agreeing with him, I was pointing out the sequence of events.

@iamthe99 This is where we differ.

You assume that anyone who's indicated support for a democratically elected politician you don't like must be guilty of attempted murder, doubly so if he's white. I don't judge people by political support or skin colour. So let's look at the facts.

1/ The police attended a large pre-planned celebration. To control the situation they erected barriers to close off some roads.

2/ They had to remove a barrier to let an ambulance through. The car guy got through by tailgating the ambulance. This was a stupid/selfish thing to do but it may be he had to be somewhere and was frustrated by the delays.

3/ An angry mob of fans then attacked his car. This was terrifying for him - as it would be for you or anyone.

4/ In panic his only thought was to extricate himself from the incident. Unfortunately he struck some of the fans while making his escape. He was then arrested.

If you're sure the guy is guilty of attempted murder who do you think he was trying to murder - maybe he's an Everton man so Liverpool fans? There was clearly no racial aspect to the crowd so what was his motive? Was his attack planned/pre-meditated?

Fortunately we have some level of justice in the UK so these questions will need to be answered. Just saying he supports a politician you don't like is not proof of attempted murder and certainly not enough to secure a conviction.

@JonUK41 I’d love to have a source for these so-called facts. I’ll wait

Don’t forget to mention he was also under the influence of drink and drugs.

@iamthe99 Which of these facts do you need a source for?

@JonUK41 That the poor man was terrified.

Stop excusing his behaviour. You honestly believe he’s the victim?

@iamthe99 No idea whether he's poor or not.

Would you be frightened if a mob surrounded your car and started attacking it?

@JonUK41 No. he knew what he was doing and was feeling no fear. If I was him, off my face on drink or drugs, I’d be the same.

@iamthe99 So you wouldn't be frightened if a mob surrounded your car and started attacking it - what are you Rambo?

Based on what we know/have seen are you sure his actions were planned/pre-meditated?

@iamthe99 But you've just told us he knew what he was doing. You didn't feel the need to wait for the courts to decide that.

So what was he doing and what was his motive?

@JonUK41 I think you will find you started off this thread by telling us you knew what he was doing . .

@SunshineGirl I won't find that.

The only thing that's clear was he tailgated an ambulance to get through a barrier. No idea why he did that but there could be several explanations ranging from stupidity to malicious intent.

Why don't you tell us what you think he was doing and why?

@JonUK41 I have posted what I saw on the video footage. Now I would prefer to wait for the outcome of the judicial process.

The whole point of this post, in my opinion, is to point out the difference in the tone of media coverage when the suspect happens to be white, British, and not obviously a terrorist.

@SunshineGirl Maybe you're not from the UK so you wouldn't know but we have had plenty of white terrorists that have done serious harm. Skin colour is not a guide to terrorist intent.

@JonUK41 Nice deflection. This was a terrorist incident, but because he’s White and British, the police are not treating it as such.

@JonUK41 True and it’s a testament to our Intelligence Services that there have not been more attacks.

@iamthe99 Who needs the courts. You know the man's a terrorist because he's indicated support for a politician you don't like. Guilty as charged - throw away the key.

Could you explain what he was aiming to do and what his motive was? Is he a member of some group or acting alone?

Before we convict the guy we need more detail on what you think.

@JonUK41


Absolutely agree. Let the court decide - not some kangaroo social media circus