graphite · 61-69, M
I thought global cooling and another Ice Age was the problem?
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iamthe99 · M
@graphite Well firstly, Leonard Nimoy was not a scientist, so he knew nothing.
And secondly, people like you who clearly don't trust scientists because they used to say one thing in 1979 and now say something completely different (and you can apply this to Fauci and COVID as well) are actually explaining why science works so well.
Further peer reviewing refutes science. Your feelings, religion, or politics do not.
And secondly, people like you who clearly don't trust scientists because they used to say one thing in 1979 and now say something completely different (and you can apply this to Fauci and COVID as well) are actually explaining why science works so well.
Further peer reviewing refutes science. Your feelings, religion, or politics do not.
Wiseacre · F
I am not a denier..and I do agree smoking causes lung cancer in some people.
meJess · F
Scientists agree on climate change and the weather events are obvious to everyone.
Where is it published that 97% of accredited scientists support that it is exclusively the result of human activity?
Denying the changes in the weather is ignoring facts. The cause is still unde discussion.
The planet needs cleaner energy but you undermine that if you need to blame people.
Where is it published that 97% of accredited scientists support that it is exclusively the result of human activity?
Denying the changes in the weather is ignoring facts. The cause is still unde discussion.
The planet needs cleaner energy but you undermine that if you need to blame people.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
To the people still denying it because...
Yes the Earth having hot and cold periods is cyclic caused by non human intervention but at the moment humans are exacerbating the temperature change with the various gases being released. We're bringing it forward rather than trying to hold it at bay.
Yes the Earth having hot and cold periods is cyclic caused by non human intervention but at the moment humans are exacerbating the temperature change with the various gases being released. We're bringing it forward rather than trying to hold it at bay.
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GeniUs · 56-60, M
@Reason10 If you thought about it for a moment you could answer these questions for yourself, let me get you started
Why did the far left Chicken Little EnviroNazis abandon the global warming lie and move towards climate change?
A number of points here; just because you disagree with somebody you shouldn't attempt to belittle their view by name calling...I should really call it a day here since you have demonstrated the intellect of a poorly brought up 8 year old but I'll push on: Changing the name to a more accurate description. The US does this a lot UFOs are now UAPs but that doesn't mean they no longer exist.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@GeniUs You seem to get butt hurt easily, to the point where you are unable to read the science that followed that statement. There is no positive term for EnviroFascists. They exist to create a worldwide communist state, and they use the environment as a tool.
The fund raising aspect of the global warming myth and the climate change myth is a real thing. Ask some adults around you, (those who are educated.)
The fund raising aspect of the global warming myth and the climate change myth is a real thing. Ask some adults around you, (those who are educated.)
Theyitis · 36-40, M
Also, I’ve heard that some of the same lawyers that tried to argue in court that smoking does not cause cancer are now trying to convince us that climate change is not man-made.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@Theyitis Also, I’ve heard that some of the same lawyers that tried to argue in court that smoking does not cause cancer are now trying to convince us that climate change is not man-made.
No you haven't. You're lying.
If you think you're NOT lying, produce a credible link, NAMING the actual lawyers, the actual court cases, the dates of the cases, etc.
(See, we KNOW you're lying. We KNOW you just made that up.)
For your homework:
Here's where you have to look up the cases where lawyers claimed smoking doesn't cause cancer.
https://www.uscourts.gov/data-news/reports/handbooks-manuals/a-journalists-guide-federal-courts/appellate-courts-and-cases-journalists-guide
You can spend a couple of hours searching, or you can just admit you made it all up.
No you haven't. You're lying.
If you think you're NOT lying, produce a credible link, NAMING the actual lawyers, the actual court cases, the dates of the cases, etc.
(See, we KNOW you're lying. We KNOW you just made that up.)
For your homework:
Here's where you have to look up the cases where lawyers claimed smoking doesn't cause cancer.
https://www.uscourts.gov/data-news/reports/handbooks-manuals/a-journalists-guide-federal-courts/appellate-courts-and-cases-journalists-guide
You can spend a couple of hours searching, or you can just admit you made it all up.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
I'm all for the Darwin Awards tbh.
So for logical consistency seeing medical science is a branch of science and they don't trust most scientists, I'm assuming their next surgery will be done by a guy in a truck on Facebook who graduated at the "school of hardknocks".
So for logical consistency seeing medical science is a branch of science and they don't trust most scientists, I'm assuming their next surgery will be done by a guy in a truck on Facebook who graduated at the "school of hardknocks".
ron122 · 41-45, M
Show us proof of your claim Approximately 97% of scientists also agree that climate change is real and caused by humans?
Reason10 · 70-79, M
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change
Both OPINION sites. Both PAID scientists for those findings.
For facts, go to a reliable source.
https://industrialprogress.com/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/
https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change
Both OPINION sites. Both PAID scientists for those findings.
For facts, go to a reliable source.
https://industrialprogress.com/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
How did the earth cool in the beggining?
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@iamthe99 No wonder you don’t answer that question.
iamthe99 · M
@MrBrownstone That's not what I asked. Unless you don't believe smoking causes lung cancer, why don't you believe climate change is real and caused by humans?
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pdockal · 56-60, M
Quick question
How far does the data go back?
How do they know the warming isn't a normal trend ?
How far does the data go back?
How do they know the warming isn't a normal trend ?
Reason10 · 70-79, M
That 97 percent of scientists fairy tale has been debunked.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/putting-the-con-in-consensus
Putting the 'con' in consensus; Not only is there no 97 per cent consensus among climate scientists, many misunderstand core issues
One commonly cited survey asked if carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and human activities contribute to climate change. But these are trivial statements that even many IPCC skeptics agree with. And again, both statements are consistent with the view that climate change is harmless. So there are no policy implications of such surveys, regardless of the level of agreement.
The most highly cited paper supposedly found 97 per cent of published scientific studies support man-made global warming. But in addition to poor survey methodology, that tabulation is often misrepresented. Most papers (66 per cent) actually took no position. Of the remaining 34 per cent, 33 per cent supported at least a weak human contribution to global warming. So divide 33 by 34 and you get 97 per cent, but this is unremarkable since the 33 per cent includes many papers that critique key elements of the IPCC position.
Two recent surveys shed more light on what atmospheric scientists actually think. Bear in mind that on a topic as complex as climate change, a survey is hardly a reliable guide to scientific truth, but if you want to know how many people agree with your view, a survey is the only way to find out.
In 2012 the American Meteorological Society (AMS) surveyed its 7,000 members, receiving 1,862 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly man-made (the IPCC position). The remaining 48% either think it happened but natural causes explain at least half of it, or it didn’t happen, or they don’t know. Furthermore, 53% agree that there is conflict among AMS members on the question.
So no sign of a 97% consensus. Not only do about half reject the IPCC conclusion, more than half acknowledge that their profession is split on the issue.
The Netherlands Environmental Agency recently published a survey of international climate experts. 6550 questionnaires were sent out, and 1868 responses were received, a similar sample and response rate to the AMS survey. In this case the questions referred only to the post-1950 period. 66% agreed with the IPCC that global warming has happened and humans are mostly responsible. The rest either don’t know or think human influence was not dominant. So again, no 97% consensus behind the IPCC.
Facts are so inconvenient when you goose steppers want to screw the American consumer. Here are the facts:
1. 97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER
2. Less than a percentage point of greenhouse gasses is CO2 and less than a percentage point of that CO2 is produced by human activity. Termites release more CO2 into the atmosphere than ALL human activity combined.
The truth and facts are inconvenient. You need to find someone with an education to read this post, simplify it an idiot splain it to you.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/putting-the-con-in-consensus
Putting the 'con' in consensus; Not only is there no 97 per cent consensus among climate scientists, many misunderstand core issues
One commonly cited survey asked if carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and human activities contribute to climate change. But these are trivial statements that even many IPCC skeptics agree with. And again, both statements are consistent with the view that climate change is harmless. So there are no policy implications of such surveys, regardless of the level of agreement.
The most highly cited paper supposedly found 97 per cent of published scientific studies support man-made global warming. But in addition to poor survey methodology, that tabulation is often misrepresented. Most papers (66 per cent) actually took no position. Of the remaining 34 per cent, 33 per cent supported at least a weak human contribution to global warming. So divide 33 by 34 and you get 97 per cent, but this is unremarkable since the 33 per cent includes many papers that critique key elements of the IPCC position.
Two recent surveys shed more light on what atmospheric scientists actually think. Bear in mind that on a topic as complex as climate change, a survey is hardly a reliable guide to scientific truth, but if you want to know how many people agree with your view, a survey is the only way to find out.
In 2012 the American Meteorological Society (AMS) surveyed its 7,000 members, receiving 1,862 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly man-made (the IPCC position). The remaining 48% either think it happened but natural causes explain at least half of it, or it didn’t happen, or they don’t know. Furthermore, 53% agree that there is conflict among AMS members on the question.
So no sign of a 97% consensus. Not only do about half reject the IPCC conclusion, more than half acknowledge that their profession is split on the issue.
The Netherlands Environmental Agency recently published a survey of international climate experts. 6550 questionnaires were sent out, and 1868 responses were received, a similar sample and response rate to the AMS survey. In this case the questions referred only to the post-1950 period. 66% agreed with the IPCC that global warming has happened and humans are mostly responsible. The rest either don’t know or think human influence was not dominant. So again, no 97% consensus behind the IPCC.
Facts are so inconvenient when you goose steppers want to screw the American consumer. Here are the facts:
1. 97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER
2. Less than a percentage point of greenhouse gasses is CO2 and less than a percentage point of that CO2 is produced by human activity. Termites release more CO2 into the atmosphere than ALL human activity combined.
The truth and facts are inconvenient. You need to find someone with an education to read this post, simplify it an idiot splain it to you.
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iamthe99 · M
@Reason10 I think you’ll find that it’s actually more than 99% of scientists who agree that man-made climate change is real, and that the Fraser Institute has a record of misrepresentation and outright fraud.
We’re right, you’re wrong, and you know it.
Plus, as I’ve said, the truth doesn’t care about your feelings.
We’re right, you’re wrong, and you know it.
Plus, as I’ve said, the truth doesn’t care about your feelings.
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peterlee · M
They also believe the Earth is flat
Reason10 · 70-79, M
Apparently, a few liberals here need to learn some facts.
How is the earth heating up?
The only reason the earth's surface does not resemble the surface of the MOON is due to the greenhouse layer of our atmosphere. It holds in warmth and prevents the freezing temperatures of SPACE from turning everything into an icicle.
This layer also provides an environment for mammalian species (as well as all the other groups) to survive.
97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER VAPOR. Kinda makes sense, since most of the surface of the earth is WATER. Those gasses keep the sun from cooking this planet and keep space from freezing it.
The idiotic CO2 angle completely flies in the face of science. CO2 isn't even a percentage point of all greenhouse gasses. And human caused CO2 is barely a percentage of that. (Termites release more CO2 than all human activity combined.) CO2 DOES have a valuable function in keeping green plants alive so they can continue to produce OXYGEN for most living species on this planet.
Has the earth ever frozen before? Has it ever heat up catastrophically?
The first ICE AGE rendered the dinosaurs extinct, thus separating them from the evolution of human life. There are those who claim all of Florida used to be under water. Theories are all over the place.
Bottom line, whatever happens to threaten all life on the planet earth (outside of nuclear winter, if Democrats have their way and start WWIII) will happen in nature.
How is the earth heating up?
The only reason the earth's surface does not resemble the surface of the MOON is due to the greenhouse layer of our atmosphere. It holds in warmth and prevents the freezing temperatures of SPACE from turning everything into an icicle.
This layer also provides an environment for mammalian species (as well as all the other groups) to survive.
97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER VAPOR. Kinda makes sense, since most of the surface of the earth is WATER. Those gasses keep the sun from cooking this planet and keep space from freezing it.
The idiotic CO2 angle completely flies in the face of science. CO2 isn't even a percentage point of all greenhouse gasses. And human caused CO2 is barely a percentage of that. (Termites release more CO2 than all human activity combined.) CO2 DOES have a valuable function in keeping green plants alive so they can continue to produce OXYGEN for most living species on this planet.
Has the earth ever frozen before? Has it ever heat up catastrophically?
The first ICE AGE rendered the dinosaurs extinct, thus separating them from the evolution of human life. There are those who claim all of Florida used to be under water. Theories are all over the place.
Bottom line, whatever happens to threaten all life on the planet earth (outside of nuclear winter, if Democrats have their way and start WWIII) will happen in nature.
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SandWitch · 26-30, F
Climate change is real but it's causal factor is not directly related to human activity on earth. True, humans contribute to climate change but natural phenomenon happening on earth (like volcanos) contribute 90% more to climate change than human activity itself. Climate change cycles were happening on earth long before woman invented the wheel, which means those climate cycles are repeating themselves with predictable frequency, just as they did in the past.
iamthe99 · M
@SandWitch
https://royalsociety.org/news-resources/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/basics-of-climate-change/
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-scientists-think-100-of-global-warming-is-due-to-humans/
https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/sustainability/evidence-climate-change#:~:text=Ice%20cores%20drawn%20from%20Greenland,and%20layers%20of%20sedimentary%20rocks.
Plus several thousand others
https://royalsociety.org/news-resources/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/basics-of-climate-change/
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-scientists-think-100-of-global-warming-is-due-to-humans/
https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/sustainability/evidence-climate-change#:~:text=Ice%20cores%20drawn%20from%20Greenland,and%20layers%20of%20sedimentary%20rocks.
Plus several thousand others
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SandWitch · 26-30, F
@iamthe99
Whether humans were on earth or not, the same climate change would occur at the same time and at the same intensity. Yes, humans contribute to it all as you said, but one single volcanic eruption puts more toxic ash into the air which then circulates the globe and pollutes the earth below it's path, than 100 years of human occupation where everyone drives a car 7 days a week.
Whether humans were on earth or not, the same climate change would occur at the same time and at the same intensity. Yes, humans contribute to it all as you said, but one single volcanic eruption puts more toxic ash into the air which then circulates the globe and pollutes the earth below it's path, than 100 years of human occupation where everyone drives a car 7 days a week.
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Wireman · 31-35, M
AI again?