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Climate change deniers: Do you believe that smoking causes lung cancer? Yes? Good.

Approximately 97% of scientists agree with you; that there is a clear link between smoking and lung cancer.

Approximately 97% of scientists also agree that climate change is real and caused by humans.

Why don't you believe them now?
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Wiseacre · F
I am not a denier..and I do agree smoking causes lung cancer in some people.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
To the people still denying it because...
Yes the Earth having hot and cold periods is cyclic caused by non human intervention but at the moment humans are exacerbating the temperature change with the various gases being released. We're bringing it forward rather than trying to hold it at bay.
Johnson212 · 61-69, M
@GeniUs Always left out about the earth being hot and cold, it is a cycle, is that it never happened this fast.
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Theyitis · 36-40, M
Also, I’ve heard that some of the same lawyers that tried to argue in court that smoking does not cause cancer are now trying to convince us that climate change is not man-made.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@Theyitis Also, I’ve heard that some of the same lawyers that tried to argue in court that smoking does not cause cancer are now trying to convince us that climate change is not man-made.


No you haven't. You're lying.

If you think you're NOT lying, produce a credible link, NAMING the actual lawyers, the actual court cases, the dates of the cases, etc.

(See, we KNOW you're lying. We KNOW you just made that up.)

For your homework:
Here's where you have to look up the cases where lawyers claimed smoking doesn't cause cancer.
https://www.uscourts.gov/data-news/reports/handbooks-manuals/a-journalists-guide-federal-courts/appellate-courts-and-cases-journalists-guide

You can spend a couple of hours searching, or you can just admit you made it all up.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
I'm all for the Darwin Awards tbh.

So for logical consistency seeing medical science is a branch of science and they don't trust most scientists, I'm assuming their next surgery will be done by a guy in a truck on Facebook who graduated at the "school of hardknocks".
ron122 · 41-45, M
Show us proof of your claim Approximately 97% of scientists also agree that climate change is real and caused by humans?
ron122 · 41-45, M
@iamthe99 That's fake news.
iamthe99 · M
@ron122 Not a problem, my good man :) I look forward to you proving that. I wish it was fake news tbh.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/do-scientists-agree-on-climate-change/

https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2021/10/more-999-studies-agree-humans-caused-climate-change


Both OPINION sites. Both PAID scientists for those findings.

For facts, go to a reliable source.

https://industrialprogress.com/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/
graphite · 61-69, M
I thought global cooling and another Ice Age was the problem?
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iamthe99 · M
@graphite Well firstly, Leonard Nimoy was not a scientist, so he knew nothing.

And secondly, people like you who clearly don't trust scientists because they used to say one thing in 1979 and now say something completely different (and you can apply this to Fauci and COVID as well) are actually explaining why science works so well.

Further peer reviewing refutes science. Your feelings, religion, or politics do not.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
How did the earth cool in the beggining?
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@iamthe99 No wonder you don’t answer that question.
iamthe99 · M
@MrBrownstone That's not what I asked. Unless you don't believe smoking causes lung cancer, why don't you believe climate change is real and caused by humans?
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pdockal · 56-60, M
Quick question
How far does the data go back?
How do they know the warming isn't a normal trend ?
iamthe99 · M
@pdockal that’s not a quick question, and it’s not up to me to point you to the sources that you know very well are freely available to access.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@pdockal Question already answered on this thread.
peterlee · M
They also believe the Earth is flat
Reason10 · 70-79, M
That 97 percent of scientists fairy tale has been debunked.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/putting-the-con-in-consensus
Putting the 'con' in consensus; Not only is there no 97 per cent consensus among climate scientists, many misunderstand core issues

One commonly cited survey asked if carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and human activities contribute to climate change. But these are trivial statements that even many IPCC skeptics agree with. And again, both statements are consistent with the view that climate change is harmless. So there are no policy implications of such surveys, regardless of the level of agreement.

The most highly cited paper supposedly found 97 per cent of published scientific studies support man-made global warming. But in addition to poor survey methodology, that tabulation is often misrepresented. Most papers (66 per cent) actually took no position. Of the remaining 34 per cent, 33 per cent supported at least a weak human contribution to global warming. So divide 33 by 34 and you get 97 per cent, but this is unremarkable since the 33 per cent includes many papers that critique key elements of the IPCC position.

Two recent surveys shed more light on what atmospheric scientists actually think. Bear in mind that on a topic as complex as climate change, a survey is hardly a reliable guide to scientific truth, but if you want to know how many people agree with your view, a survey is the only way to find out.

In 2012 the American Meteorological Society (AMS) surveyed its 7,000 members, receiving 1,862 responses. Of those, only 52% said they think global warming over the 20th century has happened and is mostly man-made (the IPCC position). The remaining 48% either think it happened but natural causes explain at least half of it, or it didn’t happen, or they don’t know. Furthermore, 53% agree that there is conflict among AMS members on the question.

So no sign of a 97% consensus. Not only do about half reject the IPCC conclusion, more than half acknowledge that their profession is split on the issue.

The Netherlands Environmental Agency recently published a survey of international climate experts. 6550 questionnaires were sent out, and 1868 responses were received, a similar sample and response rate to the AMS survey. In this case the questions referred only to the post-1950 period. 66% agreed with the IPCC that global warming has happened and humans are mostly responsible. The rest either don’t know or think human influence was not dominant. So again, no 97% consensus behind the IPCC.


Facts are so inconvenient when you goose steppers want to screw the American consumer. Here are the facts:

1. 97 percent of all greenhouse gasses is WATER

2. Less than a percentage point of greenhouse gasses is CO2 and less than a percentage point of that CO2 is produced by human activity. Termites release more CO2 into the atmosphere than ALL human activity combined.


The truth and facts are inconvenient. You need to find someone with an education to read this post, simplify it an idiot splain it to you.
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SandWitch · 26-30, F
Climate change is real but it's causal factor is not directly related to human activity on earth. True, humans contribute to climate change but natural phenomenon happening on earth (like volcanos) contribute 90% more to climate change than human activity itself. Climate change cycles were happening on earth long before woman invented the wheel, which means those climate cycles are repeating themselves with predictable frequency, just as they did in the past.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@iamthe99
How are we humans supercharging it?
Can you give me a reference for that "scientific fact" you speak of?
iamthe99 · M
@SandWitch

https://royalsociety.org/news-resources/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/basics-of-climate-change/

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-scientists-think-100-of-global-warming-is-due-to-humans/

https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/sustainability/evidence-climate-change#:~:text=Ice%20cores%20drawn%20from%20Greenland,and%20layers%20of%20sedimentary%20rocks.

Plus several thousand others
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Wireman · 31-35, M
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@WalksWith WRONG.

 
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