Zeuro · 26-30, F
This is not a leftward shift. This is a shift from libertarian to authoritarian, the perpendicular axis. Some economic tactics might mirror leftist interventionism, but the core ideological engine is nationalist-authoritarian. There is no attempt at wealth redistribution or increasing egalitarianism, the core of left wing ideology. The GOP isn’t sliding left, it’s climbing upward on the scale
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
I won‘t bore you with the political horseshoe theory, which is already well-known,
... it's also known to make little sense. It ussually pops up when a person makes a shallow analysis.
The commitment to economic freedom in the GOP is dying, and it is dying rapidly. Now this will be denied by people on the left who oppose the notion that anything Trump does or says is tantamount to a leftward shift, they‘ll stick to their preferred narrative in which the GOP is shifting inexorably to the right.
The confusion comes from people that have adopted a "left-right" axis, where on the right side there is some form of highly free capitalist system where the individual can control the means of production, and on the left they place a system where a state (collective) controls the means of productions in favor of a certain vission of that collective.
This kind of analysis has it's own thing going on... but misses the original right-left divide. The divide where on the right side, there is a belief and urge to conserve natural hierachies (inequality) and on the left there is a push towards equality of all human beings. The economic model that these factions use is a tool towards structuring society in a way that represents their vision.
The reasoning in the main post, is the same reasoning people use to squeeze movements far-right movements from the 1930s into the far-left segment. Oswald Spengler, Gregor Strasser, ... even Bismark can suddenly be perceived as left-wingers because all of them aggitated against free market capitalism. However, the society that they were promoting had nothing to do with a progression from liberalism or a push towards a more equal society.
That Donald Trumps' movement isn't a friend to free market capitalism, is just as normal as why all those 1930s movements weren't a fan of Free-market capitalism. This has nothing to do, with them being left-wing unless you want to rank them on those axis that I started with. And once you do that, I think there is a serious case to be made that these movements aren't on the left or on the right of that spectrum, because they ussually do recognise the need for a capitalist market, they just don't believe in free-market capitalism because their foundation isn't focusses on the individual but it's focused on the nation (the collective). That's why in the 1930s, these movements placed themselves in the center, they were a middle way between capitalism and communism. But when it comes to their left or right wing status, they all put themselves on the far-right from the center... a center that since long has been held by liberal itterations.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 46-50, MVIP
there is no GOP any longer. its the MAGA party and the mitch mcconnells and paul ryan rinos need to take a hike...
CedricH · 22-25, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Well my friend, once you lose the center-right vote, meaning voters who actually prefer McConnell, Ryan or Haley over Trump, the rump party or movement that‘ll remain isn’t going to be electorally competitive. So you and I are on the same page. The sane Republicans and Reagan conservatives ought to abandon ship and let it sink.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
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