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Apparently the US is paying El Salvador to keep immigrants

Including the wrongly deported one, that's why El Salvador won't send the person the US wrongly deported back nor let politicians go negotiate for their release. So not only are they stealing money with DOGE because let's be honest, those frozen funds are being moved to offshore bank accounts most likely but they're spending money we don't have bribing other countries to house immigrants. .

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-senator-lands-el-salvador-seeking-release-wrongly-deported-salvadoran-man-2025-04-16/
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missyann · 56-60
@JSul3 KKK although horrible people They are not terrorist from another country. I don’t defend proud boys. Or January 6, but they are political. Activist. If they kill or threaten a person or a group of people, they need to be arrested that is a crime, but it is not a crime to hate a person or a group of people. I consider it to be immoral, but it’s not against the law. Words are not violence, threatening a person or a property is

I am not responsible for these people and what they do just like you are not responsible for MS 13 gang’s or I hope you’re not. I don’t fight. 4KKKM proud boys being punished for crimes. If there isn’t sufficient evidence for these men being charged, then yes they should be released but I believe that there could not be a arrest if there wasn’t especially immigrants understanding that will come back and buy them in the ass if innocent immigrants are charged. Who is going to admit they are part of this gang. You cannot tell me that lawyers don’t defend guilty people. Especially now everyone wants their minute in the sun. That they saved the day where they saved the immigrants


OMG. I believe the people I voted for. Can you imagine this?

I’m just gonna sit back and wait and see what happens I believe either administration Has to be careful when they are dealing with immigrants I’m not sure how many at this point, but I know that some have been released back into the United States those who followed rules with their visas, green cards did not misrepresent themselves on government forms had nothing to do with any criminal activity, or did not have anything to do with criminals. I definitely understand why an immigrant might lie on government documentation, especially Public assistance, but it doesn’t change the fact that they broke an immigration rule, and can be deported

Who’s authority will you trust if there is sufficient evidence? The way you guys are talking I can’t imagine that there’s any.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@LordShadowfire @PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'd like to mention that half these conservatives didn't believe whatever the Biden administration says but they do Trump specifically now.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire So you don’t believe that MS 13 exist. I guess you don’t understand that the FBI DHS and ICE can’t release sensitive evidence and investigation information. The courts, the judges and B the lawyers are. The public cannot no exactly what they are using to identify MS 13. Tom Holman says they are not just using tattoos to identify members, but they aren’t going to ignore the tattoos because they do mean something

no, I wouldn’t believe it polar bear Why wouldn’t I believe law-enforcement and FBI? This was the administration I voted for. You and I are not entitled to this information.

You are not going to believe anything this administration says so “ for those who believe no proof is necessary for those who don’t believe no proof is possible “
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire BLM wasn’t called a terrorist organization and they did a lot of personal and government property damage. How about the fire bombing Democrats? They are destroying Tesla dealerships and peoples property. How about the Democrats calling for violence against President Trump and Elon musk? Are these considered terrorist organizations?
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger Well, that’s because Biden was not mentally able Kamala Harris wasn’t qualified. Nobody really knows who was running the country. Do you ?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@missyann
So you don’t believe that MS 13 exist.
Not without evidence.
I guess you don’t understand that the FBI DHS and ICE can’t release sensitive evidence and investigation information.
So I'm supposed to just blindly believe Trump, who also falsely said they were eating cats and dogs in Ohio, when he says there's this international terror gang that seems to consist 100% of brown Latin Americans.
no, I wouldn’t believe it polar bear Why wouldn’t I believe law-enforcement and FBI?
I believe law enforcement and the FBI, but it all depends on who's pulling their strings.
This was the administration I voted for.
Yeah, and they can never do any wrong, right? Even when he lies, he's actually telling the truth. Whatever.
You and I are not entitled to this information.
You are not going to believe anything this administration says so “ for those who believe no proof is necessary for those who don’t believe no proof is possible “
Translation: "I'm not going to provide evidence because I don't have any."
BLM wasn’t called a terrorist organization
Bullsһit my аss, they weren't.
...they did a lot of personal and government property damage.
Nope. BLM the organization did not do that damage, nor did they condone it. There were bad actors at the protests who chose to do bad things. Not the same. Proud boys, on the other hand, had the specific goal on January 6th of storming the Capitol and unaliving Mike Pence.

Now please tell me you at least think that's worse than burning down a few buildings.

How about the fire bombing Democrats? They are destroying Tesla dealerships and peoples property.
Oh, dear God in heaven, no! Won't someone think of the billionaires?

How about the Democrats calling for violence against President Trump and Elon musk? Are these considered terrorist organizations?
How about the British subjects who called for revolution against England? Or how about sticking to the topic at hand instead of tossing out red herrings every 5 seconds?

Well, that’s because Biden was not mentally able Kamala Harris wasn’t qualified. Nobody really knows who was running the country. Do you ?
Fine, I'll bite on your red herring. So I trust evidence is forthcoming for this claim? Oh, wait, that's right, there can be no evidence because Trump made it up to sway the easily swayed and convince the gullible to vote for him.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire we will have to see what happens. But MS 13 is not belong in the United States. Where are they are legal or illegal immigrants
@missyann For someone who goes on and on about MS 13 you seem unaware of how it came to be. It was started by 6 teens in LA.

The reason it got so big was deporting people in the 90s. So this is already a failed policy that just made things worse the first time.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I was not aware of that. Thank you.
@LordShadowfire Yep. Started out as some Salvadorian teens in LA getting together to protect themselves from Crips and Bloods.

The Clinton deportations turned it into an international gang.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow So, once again, the US created its own enemy with a failed policy, and is trying to continue said failed policy to combat them.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire @PicturesOfABetterTomorrow @SatanBurger

not taking into consideration any other group right now. Do you believe that MS 13 gang members commit drug dealing human trafficking and murder?

If. Legal and illegal immigrants had due process and was found guilty without a doubt, and you could see all the evidence. Would you support them being deported ?

Legal immigrants could be in this country for years without being citizens. I am not talking about immigrants just being deported. I’m talking about MS 13.

With them being in this country, it puts all immigrants at risk and great danger, especially teenagers being forced into the game. I don’t believe people can say no that they don’t want to join. And this only means that the gangs are growing

I do know that most immigrants want a better life and don’t want to be a part of any gangs, and only want to become citizens in this gang members make it bad for every immigrant. So wouldn’t it be better to get rid of the gang and make it safer and more possible for immigrants to become citizens?

I don’t want to see anyone who is innocent to be charged with being a member of MS 13 or any crime I would like to see the immigration laws change, and not deport someone for a simple
In fractions but right now these are immigration laws. Immigrants know that they have to get their visas and green cards renewed on time . I believe that there is a 13-year-old who followed. The law, came in the front door and signed up for the app under Biden to join family,, which should be honored even if it’s not a law now, it was when he signed up. He has been sent to detention because of a picture with a criminal drug dealer, which is also breaking immigration law. This is the reason we need to get rid of gangs I’m sure he didn’t have a choice. If.ICE FBI and DHS were to publicly show that picture the drug dealer or other members could kill his family and kill him whether he’s deported or not.

This is another reason they cannot release this information to the public. I understand why defense lawyers say that there’s not enough sufficient information Unfortunately, that is their job and they are going to come out publicly saying that. It is a court and judges who decide whether there is enough evidence.

I’m not Talking about President Trump. I am talking about evidence. Law-enforcement is finding, and they have been investigating for years but every administration says what they can, and cannot do which sucks we need straight laws
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Most people being deported aren't gang members. There's tons of individual stories you can look up, most are working here and one was here 30 years I believe. Another was on their way to a citizenship hearing when ICE detained them. Another were parents of a girl with brain cancer and another had an autism awareness tattoo that was declared MS 13 tattoo.

People keep telling you this.
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger I thought that I said I am only talking about those who have been arrested as MS 13 gang members not legal and illegal immigrants being arrested for immigration violations. Yes, those need to be addressed swiftly but I am only talking about MS 13 gang members. If they are found guilty without a doubt and you seen the evidence, would you support them being deported and do you think that our a criminal group?
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@missyann
not taking into consideration any other group right now. Do you believe that MS 13 gang members commit drug dealing human trafficking and murder?
Does it matter? They have maybe 50,000 members worldwide, and possibly, just possibly 10,000 members in the US.

WHERE THEY STARTED, BY THE WAY.

But yes, I believe members of the gang known as MS-13, a San francisco-based organization, are guilty of all of that.

Now. Do you believe that all of the other hundreds of thousands of people being deported are members of this gang? That's the important question here.

If. Legal and illegal immigrants had due process and was found guilty without a doubt, and you could see all the evidence. Would you support them being deported ?
Literally all I'm asking for is due process. You seem to be unaware of how often it's being ignored.

I do know that most immigrants want a better life and don’t want to be a part of any gangs, and only want to become citizens in this gang members make it bad for every immigrant. So wouldn’t it be better to get rid of the gang and make it safer and more possible for immigrants to become citizens?
Of course it would. But what they're doing instead is picking people up who "look like" illegal immigrants or gang members, which is basically code for Hispanic looking people. I can get you articles that describe this in detail, but you would simply ignore them because they don't come from your ultimate authority, Mr. Trump, who can never tell a lie except when he moves his lips.

I don’t want to see anyone who is innocent to be charged with being a member of MS 13 or any crime I would like to see the immigration laws change, and not deport someone for a simple
In fractions but right now these are immigration laws.
So you agree with immigration law reform. Good. That's a start. That means you understand that people's rights are being taken from them.

I believe that there is a 13-year-old who followed. The law, came in the front door and signed up for the app under Biden to join family,, which should be honored even if it’s not a law now, it was when he signed up.
Yes, it's too bad our current president has seen fit to rescind that law. It's also too bad he's applying it very hypocritically, choosing to ignore the fact that his wife emigrated to this country, married him for her citizenship, and brought her family over under that same app.

This is another reason they cannot release this information to the public. I understand why defense lawyers say that there’s not enough sufficient information Unfortunately, that is their job and they are going to come out publicly saying that. It is a court and judges who decide whether there is enough evidence.
Look. I've been through the court system, and while I was a dumbass and actually broke the law, I've met numerous people who never did their entire lives, but were railroaded into taking a plea bargain and went to prison. So you'll pardon me if I do not trust a system whose employees only remain employed so long as they continue consistently sending people to prison.
missyann · 56-60
@LordShadowfire I’m sorry that you had a mad experience, but there Has to be somebody in charge of enforcing the law. I mean, investigating arresting charging, and either found innocent or guilty. Who do you think that should be?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann We did talk about ms 13 members and for the fact that most deported aren't ms 13 members.

How is this not relevant huh?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Let's be honest, it's easier for you to say that all undocumented people are ms 13 but not all are ms 13 yet you only want to talk about ms 13 but most people deported are not ms 13.

Most people are not ms 13.
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger I never said most people being deported, are MS I never said, that all undocumented immigrants are MS 13

My question is, do you support deporting those who are MS 13
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann I support due process and looking at individual cases for immigrants
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger Are there any crimes that you think would warrant an immigrant being deported
@missyann That is a nonsense question because none of these people belong to that gang.

And sending people to a concentration camp is not just deportation. You can't even be honest about what is actually happening.
@missyann And whether someone supports deportation is totally irrelevant to the question of due process.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow She doesn't even believe it's a concentration camp. She called it a detention center, with no comprehension that it's the same thing. It's a prison camp where they concentrate a population consisting of immigrants of a certain color and people who objected to their treatment.