Deportations... and what is "citizenship" worth these days?

Almost 2 years ago, I posted this:

https://similarworlds.com/politics/4751618-so-are-deportations-on-the-table-now

... after listening to another one of Donald Trumps' speeches. I've no idea why not more people, especially in the news and in the presidential race, have repeated this over and over again. It's pretty much one of the most antithetical things you can say, when you are living in a country that has a constitution that protects citizens by giving them rights. A country that is working in a global paradigm, where the concept of citizenship is (should be) protected.

One year and 10 months later though... we get the white house spokesperson just casually talking about the following:

[media=https://youtu.be/Cs32oUJPXWU]

EDIT: 6 days after the original post (15.04.2025)

[media=https://youtu.be/s-cuDNxsJMM]

I guess, all of this is just all being normalized more and more. 🤷‍♂
I hope the majority out there doesn't get boiled to death before they figure out what is actually happening.

Now I'm awake to the world. I was asleep before. That's how we let it happen. When they slaughtered Congress, we didn't wake up. When they blamed terrorists and suspended the constitution, we didn't wake up then, either. Nothing changes instantaneously. In a gradually heating bathtub, you'd be boiled to death before you knew it.

- Margaret Atwood, The Handmaid's Tale

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dale74 · M

If you are an actual citizen you can't be deported unless you have dual citizenship then your citizenship can be revoked sending you to the one other country that you have citizenship to. That is part of the reason why it is encouraged if you get citizenship in a preferred country you relinquish your other citizenship.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@dale74
Well...
the president doesn't have the power of purse.
the executive branch should not be above the law and listening to the judges.
the executive branch should give people (not even citizens) the right to due proces.
the executive branch shouldn't be targeting law-firms.
...
And we all see how serious the current executive branch is taking all those prescriptions.

Also, the executive branch, is just "floating it around" according to the press secretary. So what you believe "can't happen" is worth absolutely nothing if the executive branch isn't upholding those rights.

dale74 · M

@Kwek00 we have three branches of government executive judicial and legislative a simple lower court judge should not be able to interfere with the executive branch or the legislative branch that should be reserved for the supreme Court if it's not the supreme Court they should not be able to interfere with the other Co equal branches of government. If you want to stop the president or the legislative you should have to go all the way to the supreme Court. A judge in the federal court system receives their power from the president they are appointed by the president for the president to have the power to appoint someone means they have power over them not the opposite way around. And that is what the supreme Court basically just said yesterday

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@dale74 Yeah... and how is that working out for you? When your legislative branch is captured, and part of your supreme court is hanging out upside down American flags.

This is all cool in theory and on paper, but if those in power are not willing to live up to the spirit of the constitution, then the constitution is nothing more then a piece of paper.

And you also forgot something... you have voters. People like you. And what did you do in the last elections... give me a break with your theory when you can't even live up to your own responsibilities.

dale74 · M

@Kwek00 now you know how conservative stuff for the last 30 years we just smiled and took it we complained we voted and we stuck with the system just like you need to do we didn't protest we didn't riot we didn't set things on fire we worked in the system until we get it changed to what it is now so enjoy

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