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You've got to remember that these are just simple blue collar workers. These are people of the Ohio, common clay of the midwest. You know... Trumpers.

Ohio sucks but the MAGATs are the same everywhere in the country. The all absorb the same pack of FOX lies, they all repeat back the same sound bites they are fed.


They don't rise to the level of human beings.



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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
There is a great example of why a vote needs to be earned. Base it in intelligence, service to the community. Not Wealth and not a free for all.😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Do you still seriously beieve that the Democrats are on the opposite side to the Republicans. Ever heard the phrase " The American eagle is the only bird with two right wings" What you have is Republican and Republican lite..Funded by largely the same set of rich contributors.. The best US comparison I can think of is the Globetrotters V the Generals. The generals arent supposed to win..😷
@Thinkerbell RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT


Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@ElwoodBlues

If Trump does as badly as you hope, Ellie, then tell the Democrats not to be so ham-handedly clumsy next time.

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@Thinkerbell The DJIA has fallen by 11.9% since Inauguration Day, while the S&P 500 was down 15.4%, and the Nasdaq Composite has dropped by 22%.

You may attribute all kinds of amazing power to my mental processes, but I swear to you, my personal expectations didn't cause these markets to crash.

You repeatedly try to shift the blame, but folks like you who didn't vote against Tяump are responsible for Tяump being in office and for the destruction he's causing.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@ElwoodBlues

The DOW dropped over 16% between August and September of 2022, but did you complain then? No, of course you didn't. 🤭

Your mental processes can very easily be attributed to one constant factor: Democrat partisanship, no matter how many mental gymnastics or coverups it may require. 🤣
@Thinkerbell says
The DOW dropped over 16% between August and September of 2022
And republicans called for Biden's ouster!!

But I'm not calling for Tяump's ouster, I'm pointing out that, try as you might, you can't blame Tяump's failings on democrats.

Democrat partisanship,
I have voted for republicans, both in the general election for governor, and in national primary elections. I pick the candidate that makes the most sense to me. Sadly, the modern republican party has stopped making sense.
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@ElwoodBlues

"And republicans called for Biden's ouster!!
But I'm not calling for Tяump's ouster..."

But that wasn't my question, and (as usual) you dodged it.
The question was, did YOU complain about the DOW's drop when Biden was (nominally) president as you are now, now that "Tяump" is president?

"I have voted for republicans, both in the general election for governor, and in national primary elections."

But never for president in a national general election... perhaps you would have voted for Lincoln. 🤣

And I notice that you conspicuously avoided making any comment on Carville's critique of how the Democrats blew the 2024 general election that I posted above.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Very good Tonto. The skill is in the back room, choosing who gets to play on the team. Look at the options the electorate has been offered..
In my opinion, Obama was a "black sheep" (Pardon the racial reference) He created a new way of funding his campaign with grass roots support over the internet, disrupting the system and ambushing McCain. By the time Obamas 2 terms were done everyone was doing it and "The Force" was back in balance.😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

" "The Force" was back in balance."

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell You assume the back room was looking to pick "winners" . Thats my point. The money wanted the republicans to win...😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell And picked a lame horse,😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

And why a lame horse?
Because of Democratic party politics having to keep the woke/Hamas wing of the party from staying home on election day.

The back room of each party certainly wants to win, because winning means power and more money, the sine qua non of politics.

Carville: "Winning is everything."
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell The Democrats is where America keeps its warm and fuzzy side contained. Like Bernie sanders. The people who would actually do some good for the masses. Gotta keep them sedated, so they dont cause a ruckuss and form their own party😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Next car owners will be complaining about insurence premiums going up along with insurance company profits..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Oh! I should have known!

It was all a plot by the insurance companies! 😲
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell No. Just an opportunity to be a predator..Look at Florida😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Oh! I should have known!
It was a plot by DeSantis! 😲

https://www.cnbc.com/select/best-car-insurance-florida/
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell There are no political plots. Politicians only do the admin for what the money wants..And thats a loose affiliation of millionares and billionaires looking to make a buck..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

So why can't politicians plot to do what they think the loose association of millionaires* and billionaires will want them to do before they're even told...? 🤔

* btw, Bernie is a millionaire himself. He stopped complaining about "millionaires and billionaires" when a reporter pointed that out. Thereafter, Bernie only railed about "the billionaire class."
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Everyone trades their soul for the next election cycle to those who contribute to their campaign. Those things change as businesses come and go. or age groups and institutions rise and fall.😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

And more was contributed to Kamala's campaign (in fact about 2x more).

A rather poor investment...? 🤔