Japan, the EU and China projected to outperform the US economically for the first time ever

@Burnley123 That's why I don't support capitalism anymore, they are out of control. And thanks for setting my mind at ease. I mean don't get me wrong, for capitalist countries to even exist, we take from developing countries.

I wish for countries to become prosperous with nothing but love for others. But this is still my country so for Trump to make us more weak by isolationalism I don't appreciate.

Capitalists are weak people scared of their own shadow and the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for them.

At the same time, we can stop decline at any point in time through measures even a bipartisan measure sounds good at this point but I know that's not their agenda.

So to me, Trump is directly causing it by not fixing it. I know it was in decline due to how the cost of living is and Mexico was deporting US citizens, not because of Trump but because the US dollar was inflating their economy, which tells me something.

But if they fail to fix the economy, it's their fault directly. We can stop decline and if Trump isn't doing that, then he's to blame

@SatanBurger The main two reasons for America's relative decline are population demographics and the globalisation of technology.

That is why Britain, Germany and france lost superpower status (to the USSR and USA) and why America is now slowly losing that to China and others. Those aren't forces that can be stopped. A smart move would be to manage the decline.

MAGA is a fantasy clearly a powerful full one because it taps into people's desires. The regime doesn't actually want to make America great again though, it wants oligarch. MAGA is the narrative that gets people thinking the robber barons are fighting for them.

@Burnley123 American superpower status greatly derive from things they're actively dismantling though. On top of my mind:

1. Military egemony - greatly supported by having bases all over the world, exporting weapons (that now they're openly saying they'll nerf or even disable remotely if they don't like you anymore?) and pretty much the entire west delegating defence to them; as much as they like to whine about "freeloading", the ones who benefited the most from Europe not being military self-sufficient is literally them;

2. Economic stability - supported by multiple factors including the previous one, the currency being internationally as a reserve (reciprocally improving stability, and consequence of perceived stability);

3. International stability/reliability, which now is completely toast

Trump is the monkey who threw a wrench at all three of these gears, so I wouldn't exclude a downsizing from superpower to regional power,. similarly to how the USSR superpower status got downsized to modern Russia's regional power one

@Burnley123 Addendum: even if in four years they'll go back to sanity (unlikely, as they're in for the wild ride), nobody will trust them as they were trusted before. If they get evicted from those bases they aren't getting them back anytime soon. Canceled orders of F-35 (and other hardware) won't be reinstated. New trade routes (like between Canada, Britain and Europe or even the just announced one between China, Japan and Korea) won't be rescinded just to do a favor to the US. And finally a rearmed Europe won't disarm again just to go back to square one where a handful of people in Pennsylvania will unilaterally decide to halve the defense capacity of the entire continent against foreign threats.

@Burnley123 Yeah I agree that it won't happen overnight, but I think it won't happen slowly either. Bigger and more long-standing empires than the USA fell catastrophically before, magnitude isn't necessary a security. I brought up the USSR because the circumstances are similar: implosion caused by corruption, oligarchy in the making, and only recent example of superpower imploding in the modern era I suppose

Remember also that scientifically speaking the curve of things going to shìt is never linear but always exponential. At the beginning it looks manageable but then you get a hockey stick 🏒 Trump's first term was the orange part (lol) of that emoji, and now they're (we're all, actually) officially in the red "find out" phase

@Elessar Slowlt at first, then all at once...


As an Italian, I wonder what you mean. 😝