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Scientists announce perpetual motion energy machine. But they need more government money to make it work. This could be worth BILLIONS !!!!!



Image above - how unlimited free energy will be created, according to one company.

I am glad I didn’t graduate from college with a STEM degree. Imagine having to explain to my family that I’m writing federal grant applications to create the worlds first perpetual motion machine. Or working on new Pentagon weapons. I sleep better at night having an honest job.

The links below are to a secretive corporation called “Spectral Sensor Solutions”. It’s not only a defense contractor but also claims to have invented a free energy machine. But the company has no Wikipedia page, and their own website hilariously opaque about what they're doing with the government grants they already get. “Lasers” are hinted at.

We’ve been promised unlimited energy before. Nuclear power was supposedly going to be so cheap we wouldn’t even need electric meters. Tapping just 3% of the sun’s rays would generate an order of magnitude more electricity than we could ever use. Wind turbines would more than pick up the slack after sunset. Not to mention cold fusion, hot fusion, turning switchgrass into gasoline, turning used French fry oil into diesel, tidal energy . . .

Everything listed above failed to live up to some overblown promise. Most of them are expensive, require exotic minerals which are scarce, or have a huge footprint. If these things actually lived up to their promise, we wouldn’t be looking to get free energy from harnessing the earth’s rotation.

The scientists involved promise – they PROMISE – that with enough taxpayer support, they can make it better than nuclear, fusion, solar, wind, tidal, hydrogen, and capturing moonbeams with magic crystals.

Here is how harnessing the earth’s rotation is supposed to work (exact quote from their press release): “make a cylinder of manganese-zinc ferrite, a weakly conducting material known for its magnetic shielding properties. Then you align the cylinder along a north–south axis, but you tilt it a 57-degree angle. This makes the cylinder harmonious with both the earth’s rotation AND magnetic field”. Once you do all that, you get free electricity.

But Spectral Sensor Solutions doesn’t have any photos of this amazing device. Not even an AI generated mockup. All they have is a cartoon. See image at top, pasted from their press release. If you gave me 2 minutes time Midjourney, I could come up with something snazzier and more believable.

Reminder to congress and the White House: free energy and perpetual motion machines are impossible due to the laws of physics. (Thank you for decades of work Einstein, Erwin Schrodinger, Nils Bohr, and Max Planck). There’s no free lunch, no matter what the guys at Spectral Sensor Solutions claim.

I’m a cynic and skeptic and about government grants. America spends trillions on weapons, but we lose wars to ragtag armies like the Taliban in Afghanistan. We’re still subsiding people to buy solar panels and EV batteries and windmills because they’re ridiculously expensive. And after a couple of decades those gizmos will need to be recycled, something we haven’t figured out how to do yet. Dumping those 300 foot long wind turbine blades offshore to make artificial reefs is their best idea so far.

So, my theory is that if America builds a bunch of these mysterious manganese-zinc-ferrite cylinders, not only will it be astonishingly expensive, it might require a footprint the size of Greenland. Or slow down the earth’s rotation. Or sap the planet’s magnetic field. Watch various Hollywood disaster films if you want see what happens then.

Sorry, but I have to turn down your grant request, Spectral Sensor Solutions and Princeton University. We already have a bunch of energy miracles and weapons that never lived up to their promise. And a $37 Trillion national debt to prove it.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

This Tiny Device Generates Power From the Earth’s Spin (PR claim)

Experimental demonstration of electric power generation from Earth's rotation through its own magnetic field | Phys. Rev. Research (full research paper)

Spectral Sensor Solutions - Home (official company website)
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Scientists announce perpetual motion energy machine.
FALSE!!

I quit reading after your first false statement; in this case the headline.

The machine proposed extracts energy from the rotation of the Earth via the magnetic field. Every erg of energy delivered by the machine reduces the kinetic energy of Earth's spin.

(The Earth's moment of inertia about its polar axis is approximately 8.04 x 10^37 kg⋅m²)

Is it practical? I have no idea. Has the effect even been isolated from other possible sources of energy? I have no idea.

I'm just here to correct your falsehood about "perpetual motion."
@ElwoodBlues Agreed.

It is drawing energy from a big reservoir, but not for free.
jehova · 31-35, M
It requires gravity? Id hope we can soon acheive perpetual motion in space too.
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MethDozer · M
@jehova what does that have to do with anything about the thread here?
jehova · 31-35, M
@MethDozer most human explain the creation of life and matter and life as we know it to god. I dont you seem not too. Doesnt make any difference to me but intelligent design is lazy in my oppinion. I seek to understand explain and explore. Whats ur pursuit?
thrash · 31-35, M
even if this method could work on a small scale, the practicality of scaling it up to generate significant, useful amounts of power is questionable. the technology would require massive infrastructure, likely with global consequences - slowing the earth's rotation, affecting its magnetic field, or requiring an unrealistic amount of resources and space.

investing in massive solar panels is similar in that it also requires large amounts of space and resources to generate meaningful power, though it doesn’t come with the same potential global side effects.
@thrash Not really that much land area needed to power the US with 100% solar. It works out to a square about 100 miles on a side. But of course it makes more sense to distribute solar collectors widely.


For comparison, google says roadways, including state highways, cover an estimated 3.6% of the land area in the United States, with a quarter of urbanized land dedicated to roadways.

Another source: There are over 1.2 million miles of roads in the US, with a corresponding estimate of 4 million hectare—or nearly 10 million acres—of roadside ROW land. Of those, about 600,000 miles are highways and other major roads managed by states.
https://rockinst.org/blog/all-the-above-the-many-ways-to-use-roadside-right-of-ways/

In other words, roadside right-of-way on state and federal highways is nearly enough land to accommodate the necessary solar panels.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@thrash that was the point in my post. creating a "cylinder farm" is going to end up like creating a solar farm, and wind farm, etc. massive footprint.

there's no free lunch
jehova · 31-35, M
@SusanInFlorida cover roadways? No additional "footprint" also reduces the need to plow snow; saving money.
dale74 · M
Everything I learned in physics says perpetual motion machine is not possible or sustainable even one with close to no friction still requires just as much energy to start as you would receive from such perpetual motion.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@dale74 you are correct. the PR release pretends that the earths rotation and magnetic field are "free" and "limitless".

the same claims that were made about solar and wind farms.
MethDozer · M
@SusanInFlorida if they can harnessed they are effectively limitless to us. The inputs are beyond our needs and will outlive us. The energy is free in that it is being thrown at us, we just need to harness it for our use. Before the sun ever runs out of energy we will be long gone .
jehova · 31-35, M
@dale74 just use gravity, springs, and water.
496sbc · 36-40, M
No power company will lat this be made
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@496sbc incorrect . . . they will lobby for legislation to make this a regulated monopoly business, like electricity and water and natural gas already is.
496sbc · 36-40, M
@SusanInFlorida u stated this would be free energy. What i mean is they wont let it be free. How would u be able to own something and cut the power company out
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Government money means the GOVERNMENT should own all patents and a portion of the company
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@MarineBob apparently there are no patents yet.

the federal government poured billions into EV battery factories, and didn't own the patents.

same with the covid 19 vaccine.

nobody is going to take a risk on this sort of visionary/improbable tech if they can't hold teh patents and make billions.
MethDozer · M
FYI, a perpetual motion machine produces an energy output without any energy input. The Earth's spin/rotation is an energy input.

Why do you always have to lie and spin doctor to make your opinions?
jehova · 31-35, M
@MethDozer an energy constant. Doesnt require effort of any kind. It just is. force is a type of energy
MethDozer · M
@jehova Force is not a type of energy. Force in simplest terms is a mechanic for the transfer of energy.


.Doesn't require effort of any kind. It just is.
No idea what you are trying to say.

A solar panel doesn't require any personal or human effort past creation and set up. Yet it isn't creating any energy, it is merely converting energy out into by the sun which in turn is sending energy through radiation. No energy is created in an part of the equation, it is merely being converted through various mechanisms ultimately ending in electricity. Being converted into a usable form. Energy is never created nor so destroyed. Perpetual motion doesn't exist. Energy must always have an input to give an output.
jehova · 31-35, M
@MethDozer gravity is constant has a "rate"(speed) of feet per second given mass in grams. When the mass slams into another mass (the ground) its force of impact is termed as ?? Joules per area?
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I believe it was Bill Nye that said that the greatest enemies to perpetual machines are gravity and friction.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@NativePortlander1970 upvoted. best reply of the thread
@SusanInFlorida Thank You so very much :)

 
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