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FreeSpirit1 · F
What are we the worlds welfare system? Ask some European countries to fund their neighbors.
We have seniors living on A social Security check while we piss away billions of dollars around the world, which we BORROW. We borrow money and give it to other countries, let that sink in
We have seniors living on A social Security check while we piss away billions of dollars around the world, which we BORROW. We borrow money and give it to other countries, let that sink in
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@FreeSpirit1 Is social security being increased?
FreeSpirit1 · F
@CountScrofula Nope, but war merchants bank accounts are. I think 200 billion or whatever ridiculous amount it is that we spent on Ukraine could be used for better things, no?
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
The part that nobody is really talking about is stuff like this won't just stop (US involvement in foreign conflicts). Stuff like this done by USAID will likely just get rolled into the State Department and be carried out in an even more opaque fashion like it was decades ago.
As for the Ukrainian power grid this article is lying that the bombing of power grids on both sides is about causing economic damage. I mean sure, it will have that as a secondary effect. But unlike in North American most freight in the former USSR are electric trains not diesel.
So for both sides, if you want to stop troops and military supplies moving around you knock out the power.
They count on 90% of their audience not knowing these facts.
As for the Ukrainian power grid this article is lying that the bombing of power grids on both sides is about causing economic damage. I mean sure, it will have that as a secondary effect. But unlike in North American most freight in the former USSR are electric trains not diesel.
So for both sides, if you want to stop troops and military supplies moving around you knock out the power.
They count on 90% of their audience not knowing these facts.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula I believe you but statements like that are the sort of thing American liberals are known for.
The "alliance" with the EU has nothing to do with liberalism. It goes back to the American colonial project in Europe. As far as the Americans have been concerned since 1945 they purchased the sovereignty of Europe. Full stop.
They are not "pro Russian". But pro Russian has become code for acknowledging objective reality in Ukraine and not blindly parroting American and Ukrainian propaganda uncritically.
Most of which can be debunked with basic logic.
As for who will be the top customer? All that military equipment of Europe that was sent to be destroyed in Ukraine and Kursk. They need to buy new toys.
And Trump for whatever reason wants a war with China so that will be WAY bigger money. The US defense budget is scheduled to approach 1 trillion dollars.
Even if they re-arm all of Europe it will be a drop in the bucket.
And Russia alternates between the 2nd and 3rd largest arms dealing nation. They don't need American weapons.
In fact Western weapons are a scam. Billions of dollars spent with mediocre performance and zero capability to produce anything in large quantities.
Did you know that if the US went to war with a peer nation that could strike the homeland it would only take bombing 2 factories to completely kill the US capability of producing tanks and artillery?
There is exactly one factory that makes M1 Abrams tanks and I don't think they have built a single new tank since the early 2000s. They only deal in upgrade packages for existing vehicles now.
And there is exactly 1 factory that makes all the gun barrels for the M1 tanks and all their artillery both self propelled and towed.
The "alliance" with the EU has nothing to do with liberalism. It goes back to the American colonial project in Europe. As far as the Americans have been concerned since 1945 they purchased the sovereignty of Europe. Full stop.
They are not "pro Russian". But pro Russian has become code for acknowledging objective reality in Ukraine and not blindly parroting American and Ukrainian propaganda uncritically.
Most of which can be debunked with basic logic.
As for who will be the top customer? All that military equipment of Europe that was sent to be destroyed in Ukraine and Kursk. They need to buy new toys.
And Trump for whatever reason wants a war with China so that will be WAY bigger money. The US defense budget is scheduled to approach 1 trillion dollars.
Even if they re-arm all of Europe it will be a drop in the bucket.
And Russia alternates between the 2nd and 3rd largest arms dealing nation. They don't need American weapons.
In fact Western weapons are a scam. Billions of dollars spent with mediocre performance and zero capability to produce anything in large quantities.
Did you know that if the US went to war with a peer nation that could strike the homeland it would only take bombing 2 factories to completely kill the US capability of producing tanks and artillery?
There is exactly one factory that makes M1 Abrams tanks and I don't think they have built a single new tank since the early 2000s. They only deal in upgrade packages for existing vehicles now.
And there is exactly 1 factory that makes all the gun barrels for the M1 tanks and all their artillery both self propelled and towed.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow No man when I mean pro-Russian I mean that without any kind of hidden implication. Trump is pro-Russian. Obviously. Loudly. He shouts it to the skies.
This is not because he's a puppet of Putin. It's because he's a corrupt reactionary and Russia is a much closer fit to his vision to the US than the EU.
And the US colonial project is neoliberalism. That's the whole thing. Ukraine is a part of that. The entire reason this war started is because NATO (and NATO means the US) tried to pull Ukraine into its sphere of influence, and Russia felt backed into a corner and invaded.
The neolibs - that is Republicans and Democrats from Reagan to today - all back this kind of project. Trump does not, and that means a geopolitical realignment.
You're trying to characterize me as someone who is all FREEDOM GOOD RUSSIA BAD and I think all these characters are monsters who should be put up against the wall. But I can see what's happening and that is a wholesale abandonment of neoliberalism by the US in favour of something much weirder.
And in that weird future, Russia is no longer an adversary.
This is not because he's a puppet of Putin. It's because he's a corrupt reactionary and Russia is a much closer fit to his vision to the US than the EU.
And the US colonial project is neoliberalism. That's the whole thing. Ukraine is a part of that. The entire reason this war started is because NATO (and NATO means the US) tried to pull Ukraine into its sphere of influence, and Russia felt backed into a corner and invaded.
The neolibs - that is Republicans and Democrats from Reagan to today - all back this kind of project. Trump does not, and that means a geopolitical realignment.
You're trying to characterize me as someone who is all FREEDOM GOOD RUSSIA BAD and I think all these characters are monsters who should be put up against the wall. But I can see what's happening and that is a wholesale abandonment of neoliberalism by the US in favour of something much weirder.
And in that weird future, Russia is no longer an adversary.
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justanothername · 51-55, M
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@justanothername More like you were lied to to the point that you actually believe the propaganda that one more wonder weapon will magically change the inevitable.
Even outgoing Biden administration officials said victory was not the point. Bleeding Russia as long as possible was the point.
Even outgoing Biden administration officials said victory was not the point. Bleeding Russia as long as possible was the point.
justanothername · 51-55, M
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
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