Men Playing With/Against Women In Sports

@NerdyPotato Try telling that to the female boxer who got clobbered at the Paris Olympics because she fought against a man.

@Pambie I can't, because that didn't happen.

@NerdyPotato Don't tell lies. Lying is a sin.

@Pambie who are we talking about then?

@NerdyPotato Oh for God's sake! Are you being deliberately obtuse?

See the link to the article?

@Pambie no, I don't see an article. But Imane Khelif was assigned female at birth, lived her whole life as a woman, in a country where it is illegal to be transgender, and the only argument for calling her a man was a DNA test by a lab that's been scrutinized for fabricating results in other cases and didn't provide any details on her test. She is a woman by every definition, even those used by transphobes.

Like I said: you took the bait.

@Pambie then why are so upset about her winning even if she were trans? (Also: phobe isn't necessarily fear. It can also mean hate or rejection.)

@Pambie no, not him. She was born as a woman and lived her whole life as a woman. There was and is nothing male about her.


Remember this? You should take that to heart. And I believe the bible also says to love your neighbor, so you may want to stop hating on trans people if you don't want to go to hell.

@NerdyPotato "Hating on"? Right, like I'm going to take any advice from someone with such poor grammar.
And "living life as a woman" doesn't make you a woman. I suppose you also believe that a man wearing a dress magically transforms him into a woman as well. What are you, five years old?

@Pambie no, but I thought your crowd always says that being born as a woman makes you a woman. Or is that only when it's convenient and not when you can get more upset about someone magically becoming a man by some definition only you adhere to?

What definition is that anyway? What exactly made her a man in your eyes? It's not her genitals, hormone levels or what's in her passport because that's all female.

And nice try deflecting the topic with your comment about grammar. English is my second language. How fluent are you in your second one? Regardless, I don't think you have any trouble understanding me.

@NerdyPotato then you have held an hearing voice to the women of sports who protest against it.

@Pambie agreed

https://indianexpress.com/article/health-wellness/paris-olympics-row-imane-khelif-gender-sex-development-disorder-9492428/

Woman with a gender identity problem. And from my studies back then, women who are born with this problem has more male testosterone, and can't conceive and have children, at least not naturally, they generally don't have ovaries or working ovaries.

Though this person was not transgender or unisex, this person still has a high level of male testosterone.

This person explains it fairly well doctor or not there is other information out there on this condition.
[media=https://youtu.be/LmqUftpruRI?si=nWJ8L-bnTjdproRD]

@Charity she is still female though. And sports is all about being better than others, not only through training but also through natural talent and build. Where do you draw the line? Btw, there are limits to testosterone levels in professional sports and hers fell within that.

@NerdyPotato never said she wasn't female. Female with high levels of male testosterone which makes her physically stronger.

@Charity that may be, but it was still within the limits of the competition, and some people being stronger, faster, better than others is the whole idea of sports. So what's the problem?

@NerdyPotato testosterone levels.
Nobody's stupid, and if you put a female against a male in equal weight division equal size, ""equal training,""in pro sports the one with the highest level of
Testosterone are generally the winners.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7930971/#:~:text=Women%20athletes%20are%20known%20to,mass%20%5B10%2C11%5D.

That is why some of those women who are born with gender identification and issues and those who are trans take treatments to lower their testosterone levels.

Fair is fair, right is right, wrong is wrong but to each their own opinion.

@Charity ok, but Imane's testosterone levels were within the limits of the competition, so not too high, not on male levels. So again: what's the problem with her competing in a competition she met all requirements for?