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$175 billion spent, zero results. What should we have expected?



Photo above - US Secretary of State Marco Rubio arrives in Saudi Arabia for Russian peace talks. He is apparently receiving tips from renowned assassin and oppressor crown prince MBS.

I can just see Elon Musk rolling his eyes now. “We spent HOW much? $175 billion!!?? And we have nothing to show for it? Pull the plug . . .”

That $175 billion of course is the total US aid sent to Ukraine so far. To save the nation from Russian invasion and atrocities. Military aid, humanitarian aid, the whole ball of wax. Russia may have spent less on it’s invasion, in terms of rubles (they used outdated legacy weapons and cheap Iranian drones) but has lost hundreds of thousands of men – soldiers, forced conscripts, prisoners on parole, malnourished North Korean dwarves . . .

The progressive press is apoplectic: “How can we abandon Ukraine at a time like this?” How, indeed?
There were only a couple of ways this war could have ended:

- Russia wins in the first 2 weeks, like the Pentagon advised Biden. To everyone's surprise, Ukranian troops and generals proved smarter and more motivated than Putin’s invaders.

- NATO enters the conflict. Either by enforcing a no-fly zone, or activating ground troops. Europe vetoed this because Putin kept going on TV and promising to nuke various nation's capitols. The Biden administration had no maneuvering room and refused to call Putin’s bluff on its own.

- A negotiated settlement, which ratifies the real estate captured at that point in time, and allows Putin to save face, while giving him time to re-arm. This is where we are today.

It’s okay to blame Trump for tossing Hegseth and Rubio into the furnace before they even unpacked. But please recognize that negotiations were Biden's 2025 plan all along. Keep Ukraine out of the news until after re-election, then begin negotiations to decide which flag stays where. If you’re not going to use NATO, or send in US troops unilaterally, it’s your only option. You can't keep spending hundreds of billions forever. The US public is war weary. And unlike war weary Russians, we get to vote about things we don't like.

So yes, Putin wins. If you have another solution, please post it below. In the meantime, let’s move along, shall we?

I dismiss the bluster of French President Macron, who threatened to send French troops to Kiev. This is the guy who was flummoxed by a few dozen striking railroad workers.

Germany is a joke. They're still buying Russian oil and natural gas, keeping Putin’s murderous dream alive. And at the same time wringing their hands and bemoaning the atrocities.

England isn’t going to do anything unless the US does. They only have 10% of US troop strength and only spend 10% as much on their military. And England, Germany and France are all behind on their NATO dues. Besides the USA, only Greece and Poland are up to date. Poland shares a border with Ukraine, and is watching this thing play out nervously.

Defense Secretary Hegseth is a disaster so far. Rubio seems a bit more polished and astute. I don’t buy the notion that Russian negotiators are “experts” who will eat him for lunch. However, I certainly DO buy the notion that Russians are ruthless thugs who don’t care how many people die. That is their secret negotiating power. "Look !!! We just crashed a drone into the Chernobyl containment dome! Bwaaah . . . you're all gonna die!"

I find it both hilarious and deplorable that PBS, CNN and other mainstream media are now screeching in anguish over negotiations. They would have been cheering if this was Biden. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. And those pundit probably couldn’t even figure out the 3 ways this war could end, so they’re morons too.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

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Khenpal1 · M Best Comment
Every war can be won. Nixon's China trip ultimately throw Taiwan under the diplomatic bus. Ukraine gave up nukes for security guaranties from US. With the current arrangement set to expire at the end of the 2028 fiscal year, Mr Trump has the chance to negotiate a new deal, although the actual budget approval will go through Congress.Israel is the largest recipient of aid from the US
Cumulative aid from fiscal years 1946-2024 350bn , Egypt 150bn Donald Trump administration presents the US with another opportunity to send billions of dollars in military aid to Israel, an unknown amount of which will be funded by taxpaying citizens.

Part of the funding will be provided by US taxpayers, the largest source of income for the federal government. For a variety of factors, it is almost impossible to say just how much taxpayer money is appropriated for Israeli security assistance. So don't worry about money , you are going to send it anyway to other parts of the world.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Khenpal1 i'm marking this as "best reply" because you advance is simple truth in your first sentence.

"Every war can be won".

But not if your aim involves any of the following:

- preserving the governments in power of your client states
- avoiding US casualties
- keeping energy prices low
- winning re-election

we had an opportunity to use NATO. we allowed Germany and Turkey to veto us. Which is how the rules of NATO were drafted. It was all perfectly legal. This illustrates the folly of immensely large mutual defense treaties where most nations don't contribute squat, but get to dictate policy to the big fish.