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Do fear the reaper.

The Palestinians are returning to their homes after the ceasefire\; picking bodies from the rubble in the relative peace of the eye of a hurricane. However, there is no politically viable solution in sight; None which recognises their humanity.

Before the invasion of Gaza: I predicted that the real Israeli objective was not about defeating Hamas or freeing hostages but about ethnically cleansing all Palestinians from Gaza. Trump (and many Israeli politicians) are now saying out loud that this is the explicit aim. I take no pleasure in being right about this. 47,000 Palestinians (at a conservative estimate) are dead. Many, many more are seriously injured and mutilated, illness is rife and all of the hospitals have been destroyed. Is anyone still pretending that this is not a genocide?

Yet no end is in sight. The Trump administration and the Netanyahu one are in complete lockstep in their desire to force all Palestinians from the Gaza Strip. Because they place zero value on Palestinian life and are zealots for the Zionist cause: this plan will involve more munitions and more horror. It will also involve threatening Israel's neighbouring countries to comply.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07kpjyzgllo

Trump has already threatened allied nations so it needs no crystal ball to predict that he will threaten Egypt and Jordan with sanctions and withdrawal of aid. Anthony Blinken used normal diplomatic pressure to try and get the Egyptian government to take in the Palestinians but they refused because their population was already appalled by what Israel has done and may try to overthrow their leaders if they were complicit in the second Nakba. Giving a helping hand to the ethnic cleansing of Muslims could incite a second Arab Spring.

Trump doesn't care. Jordan and Eygpt need the aid they get from America and Trump hates foreign aid anyway. He will say it is 'their problem.' That this will further destabilize the region and create misery for millions does not concern them.

If this plan comes to pass: Shock and awe violence from the IDF and America's 'diplomatic' arm twisting is going to lead to massive refugee camps full of starving and traumatised people with little or no hope of returning to their homeland. However, many more will have to die first. Israel will expand its territory as per its religious right and the successive US governments - along with most of the 'civilised' West - will have 'protected' an ally.
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graphite · 61-69, M
From: Facts and Logic About the Middle East:

"Amazing fact: Palestinians receive more Western financial aid per capita than any people on earth, yet they are bankrupt and have no sustainable economy.
However, the media cover them like victims and heroes even in the face of their most barbaric acts of anti-Jewish terror."
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@graphite It's a walled off prison for two million people, under constant embargo and forced dependence on Israel for water.

It's deliberately kept in a state of precarity and having no industry.
@graphite Yeah. Hamas have wrecked Palestine.

But we're not talking about the Hamas terrorists, we're talking about Israel's excessive bombing of Gaza (and Lebanon)
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@graphite No, Israel are bombing civilians in brutal attacks.

I wouldn't care if Israel just targeted the Hamas terrorists but they didn't and everyone can see that now.
graphite · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Israel has a right to defend itself. Hamas, meanwhile, sticks its weaponry right amongst schools, hospitals, setting up their own people as human shields. If you read your Bible, you'll find that israel has been the land of the Jewish people for thousands of years.
@graphite If you read your Bible you'll learn that that today Israel is the body of Christ, not the MODERN nation state.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@graphite I don't support Hamas and I've consistently said so. I can't condemn murder of civilians: whether it be 1,500 or 50,000
graphite · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic https://www.openbible.info/topics/the_land_of_israel
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@graphite Is Israel continuing the work of the Knights Templar and do you approve?

@BritishFailedAesthetic Not aimed at you.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@graphite I answered your question to let you know that it's not a valid comparison.

See my original reply to you.

Do prison communities produce technology?
@graphite Yeah, Hamas have misappropiated funds.

That does not justify the brutal bombing.

And let me talk your language- without your US tax dollars, Israel would not be where it is.
graphite · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic @BritishFailedAesthetic Hamas, with its horrid attack on Israel, has forced Israel to defend itself. I'm happy as a US citizen to be assisting in the existence of Israel, land that used to be one of those many British colonial territories for years, one of many. "It is time you left." Gandhi, telling British diplomats to get out of India.
@graphite Maybe worry about your own citizens first before helping a Country that has no respect for you.
graphite · 61-69, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic My sister was there and thought it was great. I have a high school buddy living there now. You stand corrected. Are you bitter because Britain doesn't own the place anymore?🤣
@graphite Did your sister go because of the Holy Land tour? Honestly, my wife and I would go for that.

But no, you guys can have Israel, make it the 51st state 😂😂😂
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@graphite I don't know people who sympathise with Hamas, you'd have to be an Islamic extremist to do that.
ffony · M
@graphite "If you read your Bible" ...... 🤣 🙄