Climate change. Please only serious answers.

I am a huge Trump supporter. I support everyone of his issues, except climate change. I believe there is definitely climate issues. I will never stop supporting him and the conservative movement Never

I want to understand and I guess I don’t I need a fellow MAGA explain to me why conservatives don’t believe there is climate change. And to be honest, I want to be wrong Please help prove me wrong.

My husband and I moved out of state to a rural area . I admit, I am a tree hugger there were two grocery stores, three drive-through‘s one dollar general no Walmart no Lowe’s and now there is building all around us. Why if the population has dropped do we need to constantly build? Hometown independent businesses are gone. Those who are coming constantly complaining about traffic. And I would love to find a city or town who is rural but I am afraid they don’t exist.

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RoguishEyes

5 below zero and 18 inches of snow worth of global warming at my place this morning.
Meanwhile, in back...the birds are still singing, the fish are still swimming, and the trees are still growing.

NativePortlander1970

@RoguishEyes Where exactly do you live?

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@RoguishEyes Ah, because winter weather still exists in some places, man’s activities must have no effect whatsoever on climate change. Is that what you’re saying?

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@Theyitis I wonder how many environmentalists forgo using heat in the winter because it contributes to "climate change"?

how about you? must be hard to sleep without oil/gas/coal powered heat to keep you warm at night

oh, but you do use indoor heating at home & work?

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@wildbill83 Just because you don’t quit using fossil fuels cold turkey doesn’t make you a hypocrite for wanting to find ways to cut back on them.

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zonavar68 · 56-60, M

@Theyitis Natural climate change has always happened. Human industrial activity does affect the overall climate picture but remember the entire earth (including humans and what we do) is one captive ecosystem as a whole, which exists in much bigger ecosystems (the solar system, the galaxy, the universe) so it's important to define the frame of reference. Our earth ecosystem is just one very small part of the entire known universe, so the 'internal' effects we observe are dependent on all the external effects (from outside the earth) remaining more or less the same with an almost immeasurable rate of change.

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@zonavar68 So what’s your point?

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@Theyitis The point is, I live in reality; you apparently live in fantasy land... 🤷🏻

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zonavar68 · 56-60, M

@Theyitis Climate change is primarily a naturally occuring process that human activity of the last 200 or so years has slightly tweaked but the majority of climate change is not caused by humans. Remember if we muck it up too much we'll kill life on earth either deliberately or accidentally, or the earth itself will do it for us and 'reset'. If there's an ice age any time soon that destroys all human technology and built environment plus wiping out almost all humanity.

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@zonavar68 I don’t know “how much” climate change is natural and how much is man made, but what is important is this: the people that study climates for a living all agree that man’s current level of contribution to climate change is a threat to continued human survival. No, we’re not going to destroy the planet, but we are in danger of making it uninhabitable for ourselves. That is reality.

Gibbon · 70-79, M

@wildbill83 There she is again. 3 times in the same thread. This time I brought a straight jacket. Will probably need some help getting the fiesty witch in it.

wildbill83 · 41-45, M

@Gibbon 😉