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Thucydides bullshit as justification narrative

The new trend to justify America's global imperial dominance and justify a confrontation with China, Russia and eventually anyone else that could have even the potential of being a near peer, the US is now pushing the Thucydides trap narrative. It conveniently ignores actual US military policy of direct confrontation with anyone who challenges their global empire , and turns it into some fairytale of fatalistic inevitability. Very convenient. Fate made me do it.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
Speaking of greek myths:

Modern tankies are an example of the Theseus paradox.All the parts have been replaced but it's still their ship!
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I

Haha. No, I was right on the money.

I have specifically and many times told you that I'm critical of NATO.

The difference is that I also regard Russia as an empire.
@Burnley123 No. You were way off and trying to sell shilling for the US empire and NATO is anti imperialism. @Burnley123


Right. You accept the NATO and US military narrative wholesale.

Reacting to the conquest and colonization of all of Eastern Europe after 30 years of lies is not an empire.


Rusisia is not a global empire whereas the US empire literally has global empire as official state policy. I mean it is on the DOD public website FFS.

Once you understand all the treaties the US signed at the end of the cold war were done in the exact same spirit as the treaties with the Native Americans. Meaning they never had any intentions of honouring them and just said whatever would allow them to declare victory in the cold war.

Pretty sure Kiev is east of Berlin.

And it is not about Putin either. Literally all Russian leaders would have reacted the same way.

Hell even the current CIA director said in 2008 that trying to force NATO membership in Ukraine would lead to war in 2008.

Many other American diplomats warned this would be the result in 1997.

Provoking a war was the point.

Denying otherwise is ignoring 30 years of history and statements by probably dozens of diplomats over 30 years.
@Burnley123 The only way this would have gone differently is if NATO had been thrown on the dust heap with the Warsaw Pact or regime change in Russia where they fly in some Yeltsin era oligarch from London or NYC and install them as a plant.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You better let me guide you on this since you have 0.0 idea (mathematically speaking) of what you are talking about. What is so unimaginable with your rants is that you have such an anti-authority stance you can't see Russia and China for their imperialist leanings now and in the past. It's as though you have blinders have on.

I think I can help you on a more reasonable path without mandating you abandon your extremist views (for as long as you want to hold them). But, with my guidance I can prevent you from making a fool of yourself. I offer this gift in the spirit of helping the less fortunate. It's what I do.
@MarkPaul You have no idea what you are talking about as usual. I would bet money you could not even find Ukraine on a map before 2022.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I was studying global geography while you were still trying to "find yourself." So, yeah not only could I locate Ukraine on the map, I knew its origins, I understood its culture, and I predicted it would be on Putin's radar for reconstituting the USSR. You are literally a living demonstration of what projection is. I could use you as a cute aside in a Ted Talks presentation on human behaviour quirks and psychological abnormalities.
@MarkPaul That is a lie. You have proven that. All you have is talking points from 2022 forward straight from the likes of Jake Sullivan.

It speaks volumes that for someone who claims expertise you cannot provide a single counter argument.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Jake is a good man. Hard worker and like me a team player. It seems you have a problem with anyone who actually gets things done instead of being an ideologue. Well, I am no ideologue.