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Biden the Magnificent

According to the wire services, our beloved bidumb gave Ukraine permission to fire US made missiles into the interior of Russia. This is an act of war on the part of President Biden. So we are now getting involved at the nuclear level.
If any of you people wonder why republicans don’t believe you when you call us names, there it is for all to see!
You call us idiots, but you liberals are the real idiots. You elected a carrot for president. May not be any of us alive to see Trump sworn in.
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I get it! Russia invading and bombing Ukraine in violation of major treaties is just fun & games, but if Ukraine fights back, that's war???
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Dino11 · M
@ElwoodBlues And Who won the Election DemNDumber?

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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MarthannBann888 Does might make Right Martha?

All Russia wanted was no nukes and a driveway to the Crimea.

... Maybe Russia wants Alaska... and if they do, you should just give it to them. So they can start creating their little driveway towards all the other pieces they want.
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@Kwek00

Jesus. Did we not get nukes out of Cuba? On the same principle?
The part of Ukraine they want is ethnically Russian. The citizens all speak Russian. The two parties were in negotiations when the administration told them to stop. Why?
Ukraine has no hope of winning. When they lose, they will have to give up the whole country. They have given up one million young men to death and serious injuries. No buildings. No heritage. No sense of home anymore. A significant segment of the population has left the country to be assimilated into other countries.
Use your own common sense. Did Biden do them a favor when he ended the talks?

Your last paragraph is a testament to “Peace Through Strength”. No Russia doesn’t want to fight house to house for that state. The founding fathers wanted us armed as a deterrent to invasion. Been working pretty good. One of our many defenses.
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@MarthannBann888 says
The part of Ukraine they want is ethnically Russian.
DEAD WRONG!! Martha, my dear, Russia took the ethnically Russian part in 2014, just after the Sochi Olympics ended. Can't you remember the history you lived thru???

The two parties were in negotiations when the administration told them to stop. Why?
DEAD WRONG AGAIN!!
Martha, my dear, as soon as it was clear that tRump's Jan 6 insurrection had failed, Russia began concentrating 100,000 troops on Ukraine's border. Russia claimed there were "Nazis" in Ukraine. That was their excuse for sending columns of tanks directly towards Kiev. And Kiev is NOT ethnically Russian.

And, Martha my dear, you are completely ignoring the fact that Russia, the US, and the Ukraine signed the three-way treaty known as the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. It's a binding treaty, and we are upholding our treaty obligations. International treaties are important!!

Since, @MarthannBann888, you seem so fond of the "might makes right" approach to politics, consider that it's only the might of folks like the NATO signatories that gives international treaties any force in the world. It is very much in our USA interest to make sure the world understands there is a large cost to violating treaties. Treaties keep the peace as long as they have credibility, and we are providing that credibility for all to see.





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Annnddd . . . Martha comes back with a long string of personal insults and no counter to the facts about the ethnically Russian areas nor my treaty enforcement arguments😂🤣😂
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@ElwoodBlues

Dearest El,

The condescending meanness of your post leaves me breathless! When and who told you it was ok to speak to others in this better than you are manner? I remember perfectly well the history I have lived in my insulting demeaning kkk wannabe. You do not seem to remember the groups of people who talk to others, and revise history to their liking just like you do.
The history between Ukraine and Russia is much older than your 30-year old treaty. The treaty has nothing to do with the history between the two countries or the historical basis on which the two might have worked out an agreement. But, since you seem to love death and belong to the party of death, I am sure you are enjoying the death of a people as much as you enjoyed the death of the Russians.
Since you seem to have so little understanding of my motives, as you understand nothing else either, I will say that I abhor murder, and unlike you would rather see people happier than they would be dying in a bombed out building of starvation and gunshot wounds. I think you would be happier finding something more positive to think about than unborn babies trying to escape their mother’s womb before they are torn apart by the abortion so called doctor. Or fantasizing on the terrible deaths in Ukraine.
Since none of you ever voiced the slightest compassion for the seventy million Russians who died, you do not have the moral basis to now speak about the present Democratic Party engineered massacre. The Ukraine has no might to make right and I am not willing to ok a senseless war against a defeated and beaten people simply for your enjoyment.

Funny how you people always show up for murder.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MarthannBann888
You do not seem to remember the groups of people who talk to others, and revise history to their liking just like you do.

What a joke... Didn't you vote for a guy that said that he would reintroduce "patriotic education" and would create a "Pro-American curriculum that celebrates the truth"? The same guy that supported the "1776 Project", a project about history with no respectable historians on their board?

If you wanna talk about historial revisionism, you should look at all those people you support Martha.

But, since you seem to love death and belong to the party of death, I am sure you are enjoying the death of a people as much as you enjoyed the death of the Russians.

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I will say that I abhor murder, and unlike you would rather see people happier than they would be dying in a bombed out building of starvation and gunshot wounds. I think you would be happier finding something more positive to think about than unborn babies trying to escape their mother’s womb before they are torn apart by the abortion so called doctor. Or fantasizing on the terrible deaths in Ukraine.
Since none of you ever voiced the slightest compassion for the seventy million Russians who died, you do not have the moral basis to now speak about the present Democratic Party engineered massacre. The Ukraine has no might to make right and I am not willing to ok a senseless war against a defeated and beaten people simply for your enjoyment.

Wow, that's so moral of you Martha. You are such a good idiot.
You don't understand though, that those people aren't dieing because they want to make you feel bad. Because this entire thing, isn't about you Martha. It's about them. It's about a nation that wants to take over another nation. And it's about that other nation, being tired of taken over through history by a Russian Empire. It's so weird that Americans don't understand this. But considering your stances and political choices, it's clear that the "American project", is just not for you.
gol979 · 41-45, M
@Kwek00 statists......all pro war but just depends what war. The "left" seem to love war in ukraine/russia and the "right" seem to love war in the middle east/MIGA. Binary statist options, same destination.
@gol979 says
all pro war but just depends what war.
DUUUDE!!! Remind us, who attacked who in Ukraine? Is there no room in your world for self defense??

Suppose you have a teenage daughter and she fights to defend herself from an attacker. Does that make her a war lover? Suppose her friend helps her in fighting off the attacker — does that make the friend a war lover too??

Thanks for presenting the silliest defense of Putin's treaty violating aggression so far! Even sillier than Martha's "he just wants a driveway" defense😂🤣

Appeasement worked so well for Neville Chamberlain, didn't it🤣😂🤣

@MarthannBann888 cute how you come back with a long string of hurt feelings and personal insults but no counter to the facts about the ethnically Russian areas nor my treaty enforcement arguments😂🤣😂🤣
MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@Kwek00

interesting post.
Revisionist history is that history where the "historian" reports a version of history that has been revised. It is usually distinguished by having no references. "1619" is such a work. It was published in the NYT without a single reference. Our faithful democrats have treated it as a work of God, which it is not. Although Merit Garland's son-in-law is one of its peddlers.
So, you know who I love. How dare your rudeness as to disparage me when you know nothing about me. I won't defend your ceaseless, baseless disparages. Who do you think you are. I hope you know that others can be worse to you than you to us.
I take by your emoji that you would despise living in a world where women could not murder the products of your disrespect. What do you say on Saturday night? I want what I want when I want it, and I don't want any shit about it.

"A good idiot"? What kind of person says that to another person? Do you think that is OK? Do think it was OK when the Germans did that to the Jews before the slaughter began. What is so great about killing others that seems to turn you on so? You have no idea if the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine would have been successful. But, Noooo, let's fight and kill. And when that stops, we can kill republicans.
@MarthannBann888 says
Revisionist history ... is usually distinguished by having no references.

No references, huh? You mean like all your claims that you post?

So we can dismiss everything you post because you never supply references?? GOOD TO KNOW!!!
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MarthannBann888 · 70-79, F
@Kwek00 Face this, dial it back.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MarthannBann888 There is no reason too.
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@MarthannBann888 Where is Ukraine in the entire analysis? Oh... it's at the very beginning. You should have stopped there, it would have saved me from reading a lot of nonsense.

Yes, Russia is wrong to attack Ukraine.

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