No way forward for America

Having watched the smoke clear and the dust settle a little, I asked myself the question, "What happens next for America?" And there are no acceptable options. None.. America was on life support with printed currency. Chinese manufacturing and Arab oil, while the world admired the Emperors new clothes.. But thats gone now, with the government of "Evil McNasty" about to take over and bury the rotting body..America is about to become a street hooker for the few rich people left and its not going to be pretty.. And there is no escape. Even the fanciful idea of rounding up and shooting the facists before they take over is a complete betrayal of American values..America sold its place in the future of the world and it is the fault of American voters...
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-is-america-not-a-fluke/

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GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@whowasthatmaskedman

Maybe it feels like trolling to you, because you keep getting tangled up in your own misinformed biases.

What I want is just some clear facts and honest answers.

When you blurt out how
"America was on life support with printed currency, Chinese manafacturing, and Arab oil" what are you really talking about? Is that an economic view, political, or just emotional venting?? And when you jump from that to " Bury the rotting body, America about the become a street hooker, there is no escape..." is that supposed to be a logical conclusion or something you pulled out of your horoscope?? Then you double down in comments playing bogus fear cards about how China or the Arabs will just stop shipping consumer goods or oil, without explaining how or why - or even mentioning that the US is now the world's leading producer of oil and natural gas.

As far as trying to lecture me about the difference between domestic commercial debt, and debt held by foreign creditors - I'm not sure that you really understand the relationship so please don't try.

You're entitled to your own personal feelings, and your opinions. You can believe that the world is flat, or in fire breathing dragons if that suits you. It's still a free country. But when you offer up something like this as a discussion based on facts, have some real facts and expect reasonable debate.

Otherwise it's just you telling everyone you're having a bad day. And if that's really what's up here, thanks for sharing and I hope you feel better soon ✌

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@GuiltyBiStander Sure it is colourful language but it is all true. The US has been in a steady decline since the 70s. It is just accelerating.

Nearly anything of value has been offshored to China, and the US has not occupied the Middle East since WW2 because they find Arabian culture interesting.

And if you voted for Trump I can say for sure you don't understand economics.

And all you have done is say nothing in a condescending voice. Nothing factual here.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow "What we have here is a failure to communicate." There are some here who will swear black is white and up is down, no matter what evidence you can provide. But it really doesnt matter any more, paid trolls, attention seekers or morons. America is setting itself adrift from the world and it doesnt even require America to go horribly wrong. The rest of us will move on without them and an administration modelled in Trumps image will not find a place at the table in 4 years and will be so far out of touch as to become a Banana Republic..It may look more or less like America. But the ownership will be different..nd no amount of them calling me wrong will change that. I can wait..😷

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@whowasthatmaskedman

Okay.

And thanks for dropping all the psuedo-economic arguments, and letting everyone know this is just what your gut is telling you. You've clearly got a negative outlook for the country, and for your own life.

Sorry you're carrying that burden. And I don't know all the details of your life experience that have brought you to this sad point. But I think the biggest difference between you and I is that you seem more than content to give up, roll over, and play dead.

I'm not.

Have a nice day.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@GuiltyBiStander I dont live in the US. You made a concious decision to commit national suicide (admittedly after a long time on life support) I am in the fortunate position where my nation will survive with minor damage while yours spends a century in the dark..😷

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@whowasthatmaskedman

Oh what a surprise 🙄

Unfortunately, I think you're going to exist in your own dark shadow wherever you live. It's just a matter of time before you find something close to your bubble that makes you doubt or fear, and then this whole process will repeat itself.

Thinking yourself into powerlessness doesn't make you wise.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@GuiltyBiStander No. But it does mean I dont have to find the $US100,000 to pay back my share of the money the united states owes the rest of the world. I am sure you have a plan for yours..😷

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@whowasthatmaskedman

Well "mate",
you're not just living in another country, it's evidently a different world.

Take care & be well.

whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M

@GuiltyBiStander I can concede we are certainly on different planets..Good luck with yours..😷

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@whowasthatmaskedman

Lovely sentiments, but I think you'll find it's a small world ... after all.