MAGA and what it means

Make America Great Again

This is not asked in order to jeer, really I wondered exactly what section to post this in.

But I'm asking :- WHEN was America GREAT?

I'd like to know just what those in MAGA hats see as "greatness", what age are we talking about.

(I'm in the UK and often those who voted for Brexit seemed to have some sort of idea of a golden age in the past that was lost, and needed to be regained. The days of Empire! The spirit of the blitz!)

Was it when "men were men"? An age when someone born the very lowest could yet reach the very highest? Do we go back to the Wild West?

I read once a biography of Harry Truman. I was greatly impressed by the man. Maybe others would not agree.

Well, I'm rambling a bit, but my question remains - and I have genuine interest. Not looking for disputes and mud slinging.

Just asking. When exactly was America great, and of what did such greatness consist?

Thanks

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Reason10 · 70-79, M

[quote]But I'm asking :- WHEN was America GREAT?

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During the times of peace when the American economy was booming. Mostly Republican led booms.

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Just asking. When exactly was America great, and of what did such greatness consist?

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To be more specific, I'd have to go back to the President Reagan model. He inherited the worst economy of the time, along with the Soviet Union about to threaten the world with a nuclear holocaust. The weakness of the last president (carter) allowed a criminal regime in Iran to commit an international act of WAR, by taking our hostages. Reagan wisely got them home safe and did not escalate the situation. Because of Reagan's military buildup, the Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet Union ceased to exist. Planetary extinction of all human life was averted.

Americans experienced the greatest prosperity of all time.
Here are Reagan's numbers.
https://www.heritage.org/taxes/report/the-real-reagan-economic-record-responsible-and-successful-fiscal-policy

ElwoodBlues · M

@Reason10 Clinton had all around better numbers than Reagan. Check 'em out.

JOB CREATION
Reagan 16.5 million
Clinton 18.6 million
Bush 5.8 million
Obama 8.9 million
Trump NEGATIVE 3 million

YEARLY DEFICIT
Reagan $79 billion to $152 billion
Clinton lowered our deficit from 255 billion to a $126 billion SURPLUS in 2001
Bush raised deficit from 0 to 1412 billion
Obama lowered deficit from 1412 billion to 585 billion
Trump raised from 585 billion up to ~4000 billion

DJIA
Jan 20 1981, Reagan takes office 946;
Jan 20 1989, Reagan leaves office 2235;
Up 136% or 11.3% growth per year.
Jan 20 1993, Clinton takes office 3242;
Jan 20 2001, Clinton leaves office 10588;
up 227%, or 15.92% growth per year.
Jan 20 2001, Bush takes office 10588;
Jan 20 2009, Bush leaves office 7949;
NEGATIVE 3.5% per year.
Jan 20 2009, Obama takes office 7949;
Jan 20 2017, Obama leaves office 19827;
up almost 150% over 8 years, or 12.1% per year (1.121^8=2.49).
Jan 20 2017, Trump takes office 19827;
Jan 20 2021, Trump leaves office 30,930;
up 56% over 4 years, or 11.76% growth per year.

I'm gonna use stock market growth as a proxy for overall economic growth (if you prefer a different stat, feel free to supply it)
"From 1952 through June 2020, annualized real stock market returns under Democrats have been 10.6% compared with 4.8% for Republicans." https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/07/23/historical-stock-market-returns-under-every-us-president/#51469926faaf

Reason10 · 70-79, M

@ElwoodBlues WRONG on all counts. Those are bogus numbers from a far left rag.

LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79

@ElwoodBlues Hey, stop the official stats........people who "think for themselves" like to dream up their own stats.

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LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79

@Reason10 Of course they are!!!!!! You get the "true" ones from Right-wing rags!

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Reason10 · 70-79, M

@LesDawsonsPiano What right wing tags? I speak for most of America. That's why Unelected Joe needed voter fraud to overturn his landslide LOSS in 2020.

LesDawsonsPiano · 70-79

@Reason10 Rags!

Speak for most of America? No you don't, surely as one who "thinks for themselves" you only speak for yourself?

And there was no fraud. You LOST. Accept it.

Rather sad.