TheDirtyDog · 51-55, M
Just right wing talking point
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@jshm2 Even Schengen is not a truly open border. Europe still has border control agents.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Thats what the words mean. But like so many things these days, just because thats what the words say, that isnt what it means.😷
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BohemianBabe · M
@trollslayer That's another thing. We're supposed to believe both that the border is open, and that they're catching the people who illegally cross the border.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@BohemianBabe like we are supposed to believe Biden is a clueless geriatric at the same time he is the Big Guy, a criminal mastermind.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
An open border is a theoretical concept. There is no such thing anywhere in the world.
But right wingers make up definitions as they make their argument so it doesn't much matter.
But right wingers make up definitions as they make their argument so it doesn't much matter.
BohemianBabe · M
"Open border" is kinda like "woke" in that it means something, but when we hear it in right-wing propaganda, it means nothing. America could have a gigantic wall, a moat, and snipers stationed, but we'd still hear Republicans claim the border is open.
It's actually akin to blood libel, something to throw at others
REMsleep · 41-45, F
An open border is a silly concept and I have no idea what that means in practice.
Are there any borders in this world that are truly open except like maybe Antarctica???
Are there any borders in this world that are truly open except like maybe Antarctica???
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@REMsleep Beats me. I live in a border state and I haven't seen much a change in border enforcement in 40 years. To me an "open border" means you really have little or no rules as to who comes and goes. I guess it could also mean you have few rules, and you put little effort into enforcement of the rules that you have. Neither is the case for the USA, nor has it been for as long as I have been alive.
I've asked many Trump voters, and so far nobody has been able to tell me what they mean by "open borders" or what specifically Biden/Harris did to "open" the border.
I've asked many Trump voters, and so far nobody has been able to tell me what they mean by "open borders" or what specifically Biden/Harris did to "open" the border.
REMsleep · 41-45, F
@trollslayer I live in Texas and I'm very familiar with the border I have a property actually on the border.
I think I know what people mean when they say that Biden "opened the border".
They just mean that the administration has made it fairly easy for people to come over illegally and stay at least for a period of time without having any serious repercussions and in fact being encouraged to do so at times.
This is especially as compared to more restrictive governments or times in our past when the enforcement has been taken a little bit more seriously.
Honestly the border has always been pretty porous but I will say that the government was not handing out things like EBT cards.
I am not a Trump supporter.
I think I know what people mean when they say that Biden "opened the border".
They just mean that the administration has made it fairly easy for people to come over illegally and stay at least for a period of time without having any serious repercussions and in fact being encouraged to do so at times.
This is especially as compared to more restrictive governments or times in our past when the enforcement has been taken a little bit more seriously.
Honestly the border has always been pretty porous but I will say that the government was not handing out things like EBT cards.
I am not a Trump supporter.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@REMsleep Where I live, you have to have some kind of legal authority in order to get an EBT card or any public services. This could mean they are here legally under asylum status or have a child who is a US citizen (born here). The vast majority are people that once had a valid visa, but it expired and they did not leave.