This page is a permanent link to the reply below and its nested replies. See all post replies »
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Answer me this, what part of government has ever worked, such as the dept of education, when the states were in control of their collective educational systems we were rated in the top 5% and now we are in the nearly bottom 5% in the world, another example is social security, they have borrowed money from it and never pay it back and now those of us that have paid into it our whole lives may not get what is due us because of mismanagement
@Prison1203
Deflection noted and rejected.
You answer my question since you entered this thread.
How is it a good thing to leave it up to states to decide whether or not bodily autonomy is a right for women? (obviously it's an uncontested right for men).
Deflection noted and rejected.
You answer my question since you entered this thread.
How is it a good thing to leave it up to states to decide whether or not bodily autonomy is a right for women? (obviously it's an uncontested right for men).
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu is the child growing inside a woman her body? I don’t believe it is that child has totally different characteristics, dna, fingerprints and anything else that could identify it as a human being
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu here’s the answer to your question, any other history lessons you need? According to James Madison, a committed federalist, the Constitution maintains the sovereignty of states by enumerating very few express powers to the federal government, while “[t]hose which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite.”
Article I Section 8 contains a list of all of the “enumerated” powers that are exclusively delegated to the federal government. Those include the power to declare war, maintain armed forces, regulate commerce, coin money and establish a Post Office.
But that very same Section 8 also includes the so-called “Elastic Clause” that authorizes Congress to write and pass any laws that are “necessary and proper” to carry out its enumerated powers. These powers are known collectively as “implied powers” and have been used by Congress to create a national bank, to collect a federal income tax, to institute the draft, to pass gun control laws and to set a federal minimum wage, among others.
Other than that, the Constitution grants almost all other power and authority to the individual states, as Madison said. While the Constitution doesn’t explicitly list the powers retained by the states, the founders included a catch-all in the 10th Amendment, ratified in 1791:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Those so-called “reserved” powers include all authority and functions of local and state governments, policing, education, the regulation of trade within a state, the running of elections and many more.
In the United States, federalism has proven a successful experiment in shared governance since 1787 and provided the model for similar federalist systems in Australia, Canada, India, Germany and several other nations.
Article I Section 8 contains a list of all of the “enumerated” powers that are exclusively delegated to the federal government. Those include the power to declare war, maintain armed forces, regulate commerce, coin money and establish a Post Office.
But that very same Section 8 also includes the so-called “Elastic Clause” that authorizes Congress to write and pass any laws that are “necessary and proper” to carry out its enumerated powers. These powers are known collectively as “implied powers” and have been used by Congress to create a national bank, to collect a federal income tax, to institute the draft, to pass gun control laws and to set a federal minimum wage, among others.
Other than that, the Constitution grants almost all other power and authority to the individual states, as Madison said. While the Constitution doesn’t explicitly list the powers retained by the states, the founders included a catch-all in the 10th Amendment, ratified in 1791:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Those so-called “reserved” powers include all authority and functions of local and state governments, policing, education, the regulation of trade within a state, the running of elections and many more.
In the United States, federalism has proven a successful experiment in shared governance since 1787 and provided the model for similar federalist systems in Australia, Canada, India, Germany and several other nations.
@Prison1203
...and then you proceed not to answer the question. I think you're committing an is ought fallacy.
Let's try again. I'll start small:
Do you think that the right to bodily autonomy is a right that should be guaranteed to every citizen or do you think that the right to bodily autonomy should be given or revoked depending on which way the political wind is blowing?
here’s the answer to your question
...and then you proceed not to answer the question. I think you're committing an is ought fallacy.
Let's try again. I'll start small:
Do you think that the right to bodily autonomy is a right that should be guaranteed to every citizen or do you think that the right to bodily autonomy should be given or revoked depending on which way the political wind is blowing?
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu which part of a child’s body is a woman’s? A child is its own entity, a child at 21 weeks has fingerprints, a feel pain and has its own specific dna , now tell me how’s that for body autonomy ?
@Prison1203
You seem to favour deploying a deflection in favour of giving a straight answer to a straight question.
That will not be accepted in this thread.
I've asked you a question pertinent to the subject at hand.
Show me the respect of answering it and then i will show you the same respect.
You seem to favour deploying a deflection in favour of giving a straight answer to a straight question.
That will not be accepted in this thread.
I've asked you a question pertinent to the subject at hand.
Show me the respect of answering it and then i will show you the same respect.
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu yet you can’t answer any of mine and I have repeatedly answered yours, just because you don’t like the answer doesn’t mean it wasn’t answered
@Prison1203
I'm going to assume that you at least believe you have answered the question and so i will answer yours as long as you promise then to answer the one i've just asked you.
Agreed?
I'm going to assume that you at least believe you have answered the question and so i will answer yours as long as you promise then to answer the one i've just asked you.
Agreed?
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu I have answered yours over and over
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu I’m not going to answer your same questions over and over I’ve answered it, your didn’t like the facts presented to you so you’re whining like a true liberal
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@Prison1203 No you haven't!
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@Prison1203 Deflection!
BigGuy2 · 31-35, M
@Prison1203 ... that's why they use words like 'deflection' 🙄🙄🙄 if they actually read your replies, which they DON'T, they wouldn't need to use the word 'deflection' {a technique used for a few reasons} ... turn the tables on them and do what i do to them, ask them why it's 'deflection' ... these nutjobs use to say:
"you're lying"
When asked "what lies, just cut and paste those lies into your response" ... deadly silence from them ensues 🙄🙄🙄
{... what usually happens then, is they go offline or don't respond, but all hell breaks loose if YOU don't reply to THEM ...
ALSO ... they seem to think that giving examples to illustrate your viewpoint is 'deflection' ... and they also use the term 'whataboutism' ...
... but they do that because they're happy to IGNORE it when Sleepy does it and the Cackling Hyena, but call Trump out on things when he does it ...
🤔 ... i believe the term is called:
DOUBLE STANDARDS
"you're lying"
When asked "what lies, just cut and paste those lies into your response" ... deadly silence from them ensues 🙄🙄🙄
{... what usually happens then, is they go offline or don't respond, but all hell breaks loose if YOU don't reply to THEM ...
ALSO ... they seem to think that giving examples to illustrate your viewpoint is 'deflection' ... and they also use the term 'whataboutism' ...
... but they do that because they're happy to IGNORE it when Sleepy does it and the Cackling Hyena, but call Trump out on things when he does it ...
🤔 ... i believe the term is called:
DOUBLE STANDARDS