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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
One of the reasons why Trump has overachieved his polling in each election is the 'shy trump voter's.
I think it's exactly that a minority of Trump voters have strident liberal partners and don't want their partner to hear them tell the pollster who they are voting for.
I think it's exactly that a minority of Trump voters have strident liberal partners and don't want their partner to hear them tell the pollster who they are voting for.
Elessar · 31-35, M
@Burnley123 Just another thing they took from here, you'll never find anyone who admits to voting for our national berlusca but his party is still at 10% (post-mortem)
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Burnley123
There are probably fewer "shy" Trump voters now than in the last two election cycles. But they still exist.
Obviously, pollsters can't tell if a voter is lying to them.
But any woman who feels Trump is abhorent but who can't confirm that their partner is a "shy" Trump supporter needs to get out of that relationship. There are plenty of clues that would tip her off if she's paying attention.
There are probably fewer "shy" Trump voters now than in the last two election cycles. But they still exist.
Obviously, pollsters can't tell if a voter is lying to them.
But any woman who feels Trump is abhorent but who can't confirm that their partner is a "shy" Trump supporter needs to get out of that relationship. There are plenty of clues that would tip her off if she's paying attention.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Elessar I don't think Italy has influenced America that much. It's just coincidence.
The 'shy tory' voter has been around since at least 1992: an election labour was predicted to win but didn't.
It's long been a stigma of selfishness in certain circles to tell people you vote Conservative.
The 'shy tory' voter has been around since at least 1992: an election labour was predicted to win but didn't.
It's long been a stigma of selfishness in certain circles to tell people you vote Conservative.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckyromero Sure but it's probably the more moderate end of Trumpsters. The people who 'ignore the noise,' and vote for him because they think he's better on the economy.
This is not what I think but there are Americans who do.
I don't think the shy Trumpsters are more than a few percent but in a close election...
This is not what I think but there are Americans who do.
I don't think the shy Trumpsters are more than a few percent but in a close election...
Elessar · 31-35, M
@Burnley123 Perhaps, yeah, but it's nonetheless a consequence of populist radical politics. It happens there because their situation is similar to what we had (well, have) here - the more evident the shortcomings and extremisms of the party, the more voters in the closet you'll get.
They don't want to get publicly identified with someone who's already staged a coup once and whose platform is openly about taking away everyone's rights, but in private, once in the voting booth they'll still absolutely cast a vote for him because they still support whatever he does/say.
Both the Tories (minus maybe with Truss), that I know of, and Berlusconi as well, were nowhere as radical and the phenomenon as you say could be observed. In America it'll be even more significant, I think.
They don't want to get publicly identified with someone who's already staged a coup once and whose platform is openly about taking away everyone's rights, but in private, once in the voting booth they'll still absolutely cast a vote for him because they still support whatever he does/say.
Both the Tories (minus maybe with Truss), that I know of, and Berlusconi as well, were nowhere as radical and the phenomenon as you say could be observed. In America it'll be even more significant, I think.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Elessar There are plenty of analogies to be drawn between countries but done things are just different.
Shy Tories were afraid of being seen as selfish by putting their bank account ahead of society.
About 40% of Americans absolutely despise trump to the point where they see anyone who votes for him as being a bad person. Maybe no politician anywhere has ever been as divisive for a country.
Also, that women are more likely to vote democrat means that these shy Trump voters are almost certainly men. Probably men in the mid-west, where voters are more mixed. These are also the battleground states!
Shy Tories were afraid of being seen as selfish by putting their bank account ahead of society.
About 40% of Americans absolutely despise trump to the point where they see anyone who votes for him as being a bad person. Maybe no politician anywhere has ever been as divisive for a country.
Also, that women are more likely to vote democrat means that these shy Trump voters are almost certainly men. Probably men in the mid-west, where voters are more mixed. These are also the battleground states!
uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30, M
@Elessar nothing radical about populism when that is a movement that supports the majority...unless you're against democracy





