So Much Hatred and Disdain for Ronald Reagan - from MAGAs and the left.

Like it or not, and regardless of his economic policies and cultural positions, the United States not only avoided World War III, but we won the Cold War.

Give credit when credit is due.

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BohemianBabe · M

The Cold War was entirely created by America. During that time, Russia and China were having their own Cold War with each other, neither were that concerned with America.

LordShadowfire · 46-50, M

@BohemianBabe They were expanding at a pretty alarming rate.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@BohemianBabe Hmm...

China and USSR started off as friends but relations deteriorated to frenemy rivals.

The Russian Civil War (backed by the west) is what really ended the possibility of a authoritarian socialism ever developing, so you are right in a sense.

The USSR was very much an imperialist power though. The people of Afghanistan and eastern Europe know that well.

BohemianBabe · M

@Burnley123 Yeah, the USSR was imperialist even before they joined WWII. It was always an authoritarian and imperialist dictatorship. My only point is that they weren't concerned with America, they were concerned with China. The Cold War was largely a propaganda campaign by politicians who were using wokeness... I mean... the threat of Communism... to gain attention and support from a scared public. Thankfully, things aren't still like that.

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@BohemianBabe Your point isn't really true.

The USSR was very much concerned with it's rivalry with America and also used that to quell domestic dissent. Back then, china wasn't a super-power. It was a nation that the USSR expected to be subordinate but wasn't.

Chomsky once said that the cold war was really a war between the USSR and it's satellite states and between America and the third world. There is some truth in that

BohemianBabe · M

@Burnley123

Back then, china wasn't a super-power. It was a nation that the USSR expected to be subordinate but wasn't.

Yes, that's what caused their Cold War. It didn't matter that China wasn't nearly as strong as the Soviet Union or America. The USSR still saw China as a threat that was right next door. Of course the USSR didn't like or trust America either, but America wasn't the country they shared a border with.