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beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
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I don't know how much I'd trust the opinion of someone who voted for both Dwight Eisenhower AND Adlai Stevenson.
Harry Truman once said Stevenson's problem was that "he couldn't make up his mind whether he needed to go to the bathroom or not."
Sounds like Garner was just as wishy-washy. Reagan went from a Truman Democrat to a Eisenhower Republican. Garner went from an Eisenhower Republican to a Stevenson Democrat.
Or maybe there was bad blood between him and Reagan.
I don't know how much I'd trust the opinion of someone who voted for both Dwight Eisenhower AND Adlai Stevenson.
Harry Truman once said Stevenson's problem was that "he couldn't make up his mind whether he needed to go to the bathroom or not."
Sounds like Garner was just as wishy-washy. Reagan went from a Truman Democrat to a Eisenhower Republican. Garner went from an Eisenhower Republican to a Stevenson Democrat.
Or maybe there was bad blood between him and Reagan.
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JSul3 · 70-79
@beckyromero Reagan stabbed his fellow actors in the back during the McCarthy HUAC Blacklist period.
Reagan says he did not leave the Democratic Party, the party left him. Yes thar is true, as LBJ carried forward with the social reforms on voting and civil right, equality was not something Reagan supported because he was a racist pig, like Marion Morrison.
Iran Contra?
Oliver North took the fall, and went to prison — and he claimed that he was the mastermind behind both parts of this scheme.
“Plausible Deniability.” — President Reagan: “They do not have any direct evidence that I KNEW what Oliver North was up to, even when he came to me and asked for approval. He asked for the funds, for all of the funds to be be released, and yes, I approved all of the financial transactions, so let’s just keep it that way…. Okay? I signed off on it, and approved it all, but I — of course — I had no idea what Oliver North was really doing with all of those millions of dollars… (giggle). In fact, I was shocked, shocked! shocked! to learn of it….”
Don't forget who else was covering for Ronnie: Bill Barr. Yes, THAT Bill Barr.
Reagan says he did not leave the Democratic Party, the party left him. Yes thar is true, as LBJ carried forward with the social reforms on voting and civil right, equality was not something Reagan supported because he was a racist pig, like Marion Morrison.
Iran Contra?
Oliver North took the fall, and went to prison — and he claimed that he was the mastermind behind both parts of this scheme.
“Plausible Deniability.” — President Reagan: “They do not have any direct evidence that I KNEW what Oliver North was up to, even when he came to me and asked for approval. He asked for the funds, for all of the funds to be be released, and yes, I approved all of the financial transactions, so let’s just keep it that way…. Okay? I signed off on it, and approved it all, but I — of course — I had no idea what Oliver North was really doing with all of those millions of dollars… (giggle). In fact, I was shocked, shocked! shocked! to learn of it….”
Don't forget who else was covering for Ronnie: Bill Barr. Yes, THAT Bill Barr.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@JSul3
(Sighs)
Lt. Col. Oliver North did NOT, repeat, did NOT go to prison.
And while North said he thought the idea of sending arms sales to Iran to get U.S. hostages out of Lebanon and marking-up the price of those weapons to illegally fund the Contras in Nicaragua was a "neat idea," it was Manucher Ghorbanifar, an expatriate Iranian arms dealer, who proposed the arms for hostages swap.
Robert McFarlane, the National Security Adviser, was already getting other countries to send financial aid to the Contras as early as 1984. Then in March of 1986 Ghorbanifar allegedly suggested to George Cave of the CIA the idea of marking-up the weapons sales to help aid the Contras. North then wrote a memo proposing this the following month to the new NSA, John Poindexter.
Iran Contra? Oliver North took the fall, and went to prison — and he claimed that he was the mastermind behind both parts of this scheme.
(Sighs)
Lt. Col. Oliver North did NOT, repeat, did NOT go to prison.
And while North said he thought the idea of sending arms sales to Iran to get U.S. hostages out of Lebanon and marking-up the price of those weapons to illegally fund the Contras in Nicaragua was a "neat idea," it was Manucher Ghorbanifar, an expatriate Iranian arms dealer, who proposed the arms for hostages swap.
Robert McFarlane, the National Security Adviser, was already getting other countries to send financial aid to the Contras as early as 1984. Then in March of 1986 Ghorbanifar allegedly suggested to George Cave of the CIA the idea of marking-up the weapons sales to help aid the Contras. North then wrote a memo proposing this the following month to the new NSA, John Poindexter.
JSul3 · 70-79
@beckyromero He was given a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours of community service.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@JSul3
I know the sentence North got. I also know it was vacated by the D.C. Circuit because of the immunity he had received from Congress.
I also know that he did not go to prison - as you stated he did.
I think what North did was wrong. But let's stick to the facts.
He was given a three-year suspended prison term, two years probation, $150,000 in fines, and 1,200 hours of community service.
I know the sentence North got. I also know it was vacated by the D.C. Circuit because of the immunity he had received from Congress.
I also know that he did not go to prison - as you stated he did.
I think what North did was wrong. But let's stick to the facts.