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Will "The People’s Car” (Volkswagen) die an ugly death at the hands of The People’s Republic of China’s cars?



Photo above - Which one is cooler? Which one stickers for 30X more? Which one will take WAAAY longer to top off?

The original VW microbus (with its 23 windows) cost around $2,000 USD. The new VW ID “Buzz” costs $59,995 – PLUS a $1,500 destination fee. You’re Fuggenschitten me, right? 30 times as much? In any case, VW is closing assembly lines in Germany. Something it’s NEVER done. Because of affordable Chinese EVs. See link below.

If your heart is absolutely set on a VW EV, be advised you can get one of a generic looking ID4 sedan for $39,775 (plus $1,500 destination fee). That’s the base model. The nicer ID 4 trims can cost as much as $53,85 (plus $1,500). But be forewarned, the top trim has 40 miles LESS range than the base model. What the fugg?

Even if you ARE willing to pay $60,000 Plus for the “Buzz”, you can’t just yet. But the Buzz is definitely coming before Christmas. The original reveal was at the 2017 Geneva auto show. So, it’s 7 years on. This is as bad as the Tesla Cybertruck, no?

To be fair, the VW Buzz IS pretty cool looking. It’s the anti-Chevy Suburban or Ford Expedition. But priced about the same, with full options. You’ll probably save $150 a month in fuel by picking kilowatts instead of 87 octane, so there’s that. Buzz insurance will probably be higher, because the onboard lithium-ion reactor core is VERY expensive to replace after a crash.

How much does it cost to close a VW factory on German soil? We don’t know – it’s never been done before. The factory's capital expense and amortization are all over and done with, probably. It pain will just be thousands of workers getting early retirement buyouts, or unemployment benefits. Germany is a bit like France and the UK . . . there are complicated regulations about advance notification of closures, and fines if those displaced workers aren't sent to another assembly line.

This MIGHT happen in the US too, although it’s not my purpose today to specifically predict that. But Ford DID cancel one of their own EV assembly lines this summer. And their giant EV battery factory. The VW ID 4 - available now - is one of the worst rated electric cars sold in America. The only ones below it are the Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf. Are we finished evaluating the Cybertruck yet?

If you're able to resist buying the $70,000 VW Buzz “launch model” right away, savings might be possible by this time next year, I’m guessing you’ll be able to score a mid-level-trim version ($55K) for about 15-20% below sticker. Whether there will still be a $1,500 “destination fee” is an open question.

I’m just sayin’ . . .

‘A very serious situation’: Volkswagen could close plants in Germany for the first time in history (msn.com)
More like at the hands of the US. The entire German economy was built on cheap gas from Russia.

Washington has made sure that pipleline....I mean bridge got burned down.
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@LordShadowfire It speaks volumes you cannot actually refute anything I said and can only attack me personally.

Then again that is the modus operandi of any propagandist.
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
Your entire response to my post was a lie.
Nope. I'm over here spittin' facts, G.
It speaks volumes you cannot actually refute anything I said...
I don't need to refute any of your libelous accusations.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
The nature of the motor vehicle is evolving, from a replacement to the horse, to a largely suburban personal transport. China is a massive market of its own in this. The original VW peoples car changed things and profited from it. Now its Chinas turn to lead the next step..😷
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire As do I. But the West gave China the whip by moving the manufacturing there in the first place..What goes around comes around..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman technology doesn't actually advance because we "take turns".

in this case, Tesla pioneered the modern EV. then built factories in China, where their technology was pilfered. cheap chinese EVs are being built with stolen patents in chinese siberian gulags by low paid workers.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Hmmm. I dont think so. If those patents and tech had been stoeln (and I will stipulate this dies happen) Then those cars would not be able to be imported to other countries due to violations of trade law..😷
Destination fees have been part of car nickel-and-diming for years.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@SomeMichGuy an entire shipload of Mercedes EVs caught on fire earlier this year. damage in the millions. and the cars were just sitting there sleeping during their translatlantic cruise. they weren't even plugged in.
@SusanInFlorida This year?

There was one in 2023 with just under 500 EVs on a ship containing 3,784 new vehicles...?
(https://apnews.com/article/cargo-ship-cars-fire-towed-netherlands-port-93134c6e82af5cb8c3963ca85b9eace0)

More importantly, one crewman died and others were injured in that fire.

 
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