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The fake DemoNazi convention turned into a Abortion-Palooza.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abortion-palooza-dnc-could-force-pro-life-democrats-ditch-party-its-just-absolutely-disgusting

Democrats are throwing an "abortion-palooza" in Chicago for the Democratic National Convention.

"They’re degrading human life and women for that matter. It's just absolutely disgusting. This continued celebration of abortion," Democrats For Life of America executive director Kristen Day told Fox News Digital.

Day is appalled that Planned Parenthood is offering free abortions inside a "mobile health clinic" parked in Chicago during the convention. Pro-abortion activists also marched through the streets of Chicago ahead of the convention.

"I think this convention is going to be abortion-palooza. In response to them providing abortions, we would provide actual support to women in need. So, we started a diaper drive," Day said.


You think I (or FoxNews) could possibly make up something so horrific?


About the only positive in this monstrous story is the fact that the mobile baby killing unit is preventing future welfare bums and Democrat Voters from being born. In some way, (using the logic of the Eugenics Mother of Planned Babykillinghood, Margaret Sanger) this company is indeed eliminating "human weeds."

And REMEMBER, HItlary admired this monster.

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@Reason10 Dude, you built a whole house of cards on top of one phrase taken out of context. Putting the phrase in context knocks down your house of cards. That is a fact to which you are allergic!!

... addressing accusations of racism levelled against Sanger brought up her 1939 letter, saying that while the passage quoted above was “inartfully written” it was “frequently taken out of context to suggest Sanger was seeking to exterminate blacks.”

Your Sanger quote is equivalent to quoting Nixon as saying "I am ... a crook"!!

And then you say
MOST people do not agree with abortion for the sole purpose of a high school slut looking good in her prom dress.
Fact is, nearly 60% of women seeking abortion in the US are already mothers.

And one more fact that seems to have escaped your notice: Baby Molly can teach you the difference between an embryo and a living person.



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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@ElwoodBlues @Reason10. I give Reason10 credit for being partially correct. Sanger was a proponent of Eugenics and that influenced the creation of PP. PP actually addresses this openly. And as Reason points out, Eugenics was a very popular philosophy held by many people at that time, not that it excuses it -but it puts things into context. Many of our societal institutions have roots in ideas that seem abhorrent today. Tipping service staff, for example. Lincoln was at first in favor of shipping former slaves back to Africa. The emancipation proclamation was a military strategy. Our bicameral legislature comes from slavery compromises.

I am not going to disavow the mission of PP because Sanger held a very popular philosophy for the time. Calling her the “mother of the Holocaust” is pure slander.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@trollslayer Eugenics led to the Holocaust.

https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-american-roots-of-nazi-eugenics.

Only after eugenics became entrenched in the United States was the campaign transplanted into Germany, in no small measure through the efforts of California eugenicists, who published booklets idealizing sterilization and circulated them to German officials and scientists.

Hitler studied American eugenics laws. He tried to legitimize his anti-Semitism by medicalizing it, and wrapping it in the more palatable pseudoscientific facade of eugenics. Hitler was able to recruit more followers among reasonable Germans by claiming that science was on his side. While Hitler's race hatred sprung from his own mind, the intellectual outlines of the eugenics Hitler adopted in 1924 were made in America.

During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. In Mein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."

Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenic leader Madison Grant calling his race-based eugenics book, The Passing of the Great Race his "bible."

Hitler's struggle for a superior race would be a mad crusade for a Master Race. Now, the American term "Nordic" was freely exchanged with "Germanic" or "Aryan." Race science, racial purity and racial dominance became the driving force behind Hitler's Nazism. Nazi eugenics would ultimately dictate who would be persecuted in a Reich-dominated Europe, how people would live, and how they would die. Nazi doctors would become the unseen generals in Hitler's war against the Jews and other Europeans deemed inferior. Doctors would create the science, devise the eugenic formulas, and even hand-select the victims for sterilization, euthanasia and mass extermination.

During the Reich's early years, eugenicists across America welcomed Hitler's plans as the logical fulfillment of their own decades of research and effort. California eugenicists republished Nazi propaganda for American consumption. They also arranged for Nazi scientific exhibits, such as an August 1934 display at the L.A. County Museum, for the annual meeting of the American Public Health Association.
@Reason10 claims
Eugenics led to the Holocaust.
There were, as @trollslayer points out, many different groups who were adherents of eugenics in past decades. Only one such group ever created a holocaust. Hence eugenics is NOT by any means a sufficient condition for a holocaust.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues You are correct, Molly was not a baby when she was frozen. She was an
egg.

Freezing Embryos (Embryo Cryopreservation): What Happens
When the fertility specialist determines you are ready, the doctor will harvest eggs in an outpatient procedure performed under light sedation called an egg retrieval. When you are sedated, the doctor uses ultrasound imaging to guide a hollow needle and catheter through the wall of the vagina to the ovary and collects multiple eggs, one at a time. The number of eggs collected is dependent on your response to hormone medication. The eggs can be frozen, unfertilized.

To create an embryo (a fertilized egg), an embryologist fertilizes one or more of the harvested eggs with the sperm of a partner or donor. The embryo is observed as it grows in a petri dish for five to seven days. At this stage, embryos can be sampled for genetic testing, especially if the egg or sperm donor is known to be a carrier of certain genetic conditions. The embryos are graded to determine the ones most likely to grow successfully when implanted
@DogMan Did you read before you posted? Your post clearly explains how a fertilized embryo is different from an egg. It goes on to say the embryo grows for 5-7 days before being frozen.

All of which gives the lie to any claims that an embryo is a baby from the moment of fertilization, or even a week after fertilization — because you can freeze a 7 day old embryo, but you can't freeze a baby!!
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@DogMan From an IVF standpoint, it is preferrable to freeze a blastocyst.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues I have no problem with early abortions, and abortions for incest and rape.

The vast majority of people on the right think as I do. Do you think it is alright to abort a baby
right up to, and after birth? Many crazies on the left think its ok, because the child cannot
survive on it's own.
@DogMan I think you're being simplistic.

Kylie Beaton, a woman from Texas ...
But at her 20-week ultrasound appointment, the couple learned that the fetus had a rare, severe condition -- called alobar holoprosencephaly -- in which the baby's brain does not develop into two hemispheres. Her baby's head was not developing brain tissue and was filling with fluid.

Texas has a near total abortion ban in effect that doesn't make exceptions for cases of fatal fetal anomalies. Beaton's doctors told her that their hands were tied; she would have to carry her pregnancy to term.

...

At the time, she called carrying a baby and knowing he would not live, "torture."

After having an emergency cesarean section and spending several days in the hospital, Beaton and her husband took their son home. He died hours later, the couple told ABC News.

According to a lawsuit that Beaton joined, the couple watched their son grow cold in their arms until he died. He could not be held in an upright position, or it would put too much pressure on his head, which was abnormally large. When Beaton delivered, the circumference of her baby's head was measuring at 49 cm; the average head circumference for a newborn is 35 cm, according to the suit.

Do you agree with the Texas statute here? Why put a woman at risk this way??
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues I feel terrible for that couple in Texas, it should not have happened.

Believe it or not, I side mostly with the left on these issues.

But I do feel that once the baby has a heartbeat, it is a person.
@DogMan According to various online sources,
Baby's heartbeat can be heard as early as the twelfth week of pregnancy

So does that mean you're OK with abortion thru week 11 of pregnancy?

Also, with the Texas couple, their fetus had a heartbeat and practically zero brain. So it doesn't seem like heartbeat alone is sufficient to make the decision.