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Whacky Conversation wheres the sanity!!??

Yup heard a good one today between my Husband and Sister in law.
She goes on and on about how shes afraid if Trump gets in office he will implement Project 2025.
All the pensions and benefits will GO AWAY FOR VETERANS!! The VA hospitals will be closed etc...
I don't know where she gets her information from but listening to this @$%# is a bit much..

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True. Project 2025 would cut massive benefits for veterans. And it's not like this is new. Republicans always vote against bills that would help veterans.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@BohemianBabe So you're still supporting communist I see.
@ron122 Communism is an anarchist ideology, it means there's no government. Do you really think Harris and Walz want to eliminate the government?
The Right can't defend Trump on the issues, so they're just crying Communism, like they always do. Obama was a Commie, now Harris is a Commie, always the same nonsense.
ron122 · 41-45, M
@BohemianBabe Yep you want to live under communism.
@ron122 No, I don't think any form of anarchy could work. So I'm not communist.

What evidence is there that Harris wants to eliminate the government?
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Doskvol · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe Trump has nothing to do with Project 2025, and the whole thing is just a conspiracy for liberal Democrats to whine about.

Much like Agenda 2030 is a conspiracy for the extreme right to whine about.
@Doskvol Trump had nothing to do with creating it, but if he becomes president, he's going to do what he did last time. He's going to put people from the Heritage Foundation in positions of power, and then they're going to carry those plans out. The worst aspect of Project 2025 is Schedule F, which Trump actually did last time, but then he lost and Biden undid it. This time, Trump is going to do Schedule F early, so the Republicans will have four years to eliminate all checks and balances. If that happens, that's it, we're not a Republic anymore.
Doskvol · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe All I hear is "whaaaa Agenda 2030! The Democrats are going to let UN blue helms in to round us up" conspiracy crying, but in Blue Donkey flavor.

Horseshoe theory is right on the money.
@Doskvol Well is there any evidence of that? Because there is tons of evidence that Project 2025 is real and that Trump would implement it. Does evidence matter?
Doskvol · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe Agenda 2030 is a real thing proposed by the United Nations and supported by various Democrat politicians.

It doesn't mean it's going to happen.
@Doskvol Well nothing is 100%, we have to guess what's most likely based on evidence. Based on what Trump did last time he was president, it's at least most likely that he'll do whatever the Heritage Foundation wants.

Also, is Agenda 2030 bad? Like what about it should we worry about?
Doskvol · 31-35, M
@BohemianBabe Agenda 2030 curtails national sovereignty in some respects and places nation-states in a subservient role to the wider international community. Obviously that could be good or bad, depending on the country, but if you believe in national sovereignty it is mostly bad.

It's also not going to happen, because it's a conservative boogeyman, the UN doesn't have the muscle or authority to implement it in the United States, just like Republicans don't have the muscle or authority to implement Project 2025.
@Doskvol
Agenda 2030 curtails national sovereignty in some respects and places nation-states in a subservient role to the wider international community. Obviously that could be good or bad, depending on the country, but if you believe in national sovereignty it is mostly bad.

That pretty much just sounds like the UN. I do believe in national sovereignty, but we also need international laws or at least international agreements. Especially considering pollution is destroying the Earth, which we all live on, regardless of country.

just like Republicans don't have the muscle or authority to implement Project 2025.

Of course they do. Schedule F is pretty much the exact same way checks and balances were eliminated in Russia, Hungary, and Turkey. This is a blueprint that has worked three times in a relatively short time span.
After the Republicans have full unchecked control of congress, there would be no legal methods to stopping the rest of Project 2025.
DDaverde · 61-69, M
@Doskvol I hope that this doesn’t happen why should we take orders from a bad agency
We foot the bills for? Your Demi-rats are evil
Sleazy wimps the sovereignty of this country is gone with a wide open border bydone has violated his oath and the constitution
(By the way it’s not a “living document “either…