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foldedunfolding · 41-45, F
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windinhishair · 61-69, M
@foldedunfolding He served 24 years in the National Guard and was deployed several times overseas. He retired in 2005.
@SW-User 25 years, part time. Lifting artillery shells isn't easy, but becomes a whole lot easier after you become a E-8.
And it has already started. Saw the first batch soldiers on the news.... my old unit did this to Sgt. Bowie Bergdahl after he deserted. You'll be seeing them pop up continioualy in debates from now on, along with his stolen valor claims.
It be easier if you were actually in the US you know, you can watch local news channels.
And it has already started. Saw the first batch soldiers on the news.... my old unit did this to Sgt. Bowie Bergdahl after he deserted. You'll be seeing them pop up continioualy in debates from now on, along with his stolen valor claims.
It be easier if you were actually in the US you know, you can watch local news channels.
@windinhishair I'm right as always:
He knew March 20, 2005. I also knew I was deploying some time prior to orders arriving. It's one of the advantages of being a veteran who went through the process of deploying, I'm familiar with the process. He only retired after figuring out he was going. As I've said elsewhere, CSMs and Colonels/Lt. Colonels deploy on a mini tour of their future base many months in advance and return back to their unit. How do I know? I saw it happen to my unit, and heard it happen to other units. Standard Operating Procedure.
I also guarantee there was a endless flurry of emails from Iraq, the Pentagon, and so on, and people getting him up to speed on what kind of vehicles he would need, what to train his men on, etc.
Cutting orders isn't the first thing that happens. It's gonna happen. I didn't deploy until October but had my medical med board stopped in march or may (one of the M months, I might better recall later). But that wasn't because of unit orders arriving, but rather the pentagon crunching the numbers and realizong we wouldn't have enough men to deploy legally with. So early measures are thrown in to start boosting the ranks up, way out in advance. People were still leaving the unit then via other routes.
He would of known quite early on where his FOB/Camp would be. They are big fixed locations, Pentagon tends not to loose them. They keep battalions together (a camp or FOB can have much smaller satellite locations that a squad to a platoon can hold in rotation, as part of the larger FOB/Camp.) It's a man power issue, and they would of been matching up which units could fill those man power needs manning the post and patrolling very early on. He would of noticed a bunch of humvees would of been assigned to him.
Now please stop contradicting veterans who went through the deployment process for this war. Like you somehow know better. It can change for future wars, but this is how it is done currently.
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March 20, 2005 — FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
On Thursday, March 17 the National Guard Public Affairs Office announced a possible partial mobilization of roughly 2,000 troops from the Minnesota National Guard. First District congressional candidate Tim Walz currently holds the rank of Command Sergeant Major in the 1-125th Battalion, which is based in New Ulm and largely composed of men and women from southern Minnesota. The announcement from the National Guard PAO specified that all or a portion of Walz’s battalion could be mobilized to serve in Iraq within the next two years.
Walz, who teaches Global Geography at Mankato West High School, has been an active member of the National Guard since 1981. He has been previously deployed during his 23 years in the National Guard, including an eight month deployment during Operation Enduring Freedom.
When asked about his possible deployment to Iraq Walz said, “I do not yet know if my artillery unit will be part of this mobilization and I am unable to comment further on specifics of the deployment.”
Although his tour of duty in Iraq might coincide with his campaign for Minnesota’s 1st Congressional seat, Walz is determined to stay in the race. “As Command Sergeant Major I have a responsibility not only to ready my battalion for Iraq, but also to serve if called on. I am dedicated to serving my country to the best of my ability, whether that is in Washington DC or in Iraq.”
“I don’t want to speculate on what shape my campaign will take if I am deployed, but I have no plans to drop out of the race. I am fortunate to have a strong group of enthusiastic supporters and a very dedicated and intelligent wife. Both will be a major part of my campaign, whether I am in Minnesota or Iraq.”
If called to duty, Walz would leave behind his wife Gwen and four year old daughter, Hope.
He knew March 20, 2005. I also knew I was deploying some time prior to orders arriving. It's one of the advantages of being a veteran who went through the process of deploying, I'm familiar with the process. He only retired after figuring out he was going. As I've said elsewhere, CSMs and Colonels/Lt. Colonels deploy on a mini tour of their future base many months in advance and return back to their unit. How do I know? I saw it happen to my unit, and heard it happen to other units. Standard Operating Procedure.
I also guarantee there was a endless flurry of emails from Iraq, the Pentagon, and so on, and people getting him up to speed on what kind of vehicles he would need, what to train his men on, etc.
Cutting orders isn't the first thing that happens. It's gonna happen. I didn't deploy until October but had my medical med board stopped in march or may (one of the M months, I might better recall later). But that wasn't because of unit orders arriving, but rather the pentagon crunching the numbers and realizong we wouldn't have enough men to deploy legally with. So early measures are thrown in to start boosting the ranks up, way out in advance. People were still leaving the unit then via other routes.
He would of known quite early on where his FOB/Camp would be. They are big fixed locations, Pentagon tends not to loose them. They keep battalions together (a camp or FOB can have much smaller satellite locations that a squad to a platoon can hold in rotation, as part of the larger FOB/Camp.) It's a man power issue, and they would of been matching up which units could fill those man power needs manning the post and patrolling very early on. He would of noticed a bunch of humvees would of been assigned to him.
Now please stop contradicting veterans who went through the deployment process for this war. Like you somehow know better. It can change for future wars, but this is how it is done currently.
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March 20, 2005 — FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
On Thursday, March 17 the National Guard Public Affairs Office announced a possible partial mobilization of roughly 2,000 troops from the Minnesota National Guard. First District congressional candidate Tim Walz currently holds the rank of Command Sergeant Major in the 1-125th Battalion, which is based in New Ulm and largely composed of men and women from southern Minnesota. The announcement from the National Guard PAO specified that all or a portion of Walz’s battalion could be mobilized to serve in Iraq within the next two years.
Walz, who teaches Global Geography at Mankato West High School, has been an active member of the National Guard since 1981. He has been previously deployed during his 23 years in the National Guard, including an eight month deployment during Operation Enduring Freedom.
When asked about his possible deployment to Iraq Walz said, “I do not yet know if my artillery unit will be part of this mobilization and I am unable to comment further on specifics of the deployment.”
Although his tour of duty in Iraq might coincide with his campaign for Minnesota’s 1st Congressional seat, Walz is determined to stay in the race. “As Command Sergeant Major I have a responsibility not only to ready my battalion for Iraq, but also to serve if called on. I am dedicated to serving my country to the best of my ability, whether that is in Washington DC or in Iraq.”
“I don’t want to speculate on what shape my campaign will take if I am deployed, but I have no plans to drop out of the race. I am fortunate to have a strong group of enthusiastic supporters and a very dedicated and intelligent wife. Both will be a major part of my campaign, whether I am in Minnesota or Iraq.”
If called to duty, Walz would leave behind his wife Gwen and four year old daughter, Hope.
Heartlander · 80-89, M
@foldedunfolding That doesn't sound right. Unit deployment/mobility plans are known a year in advance, thought actual deployment orders don't come until much later. The plans are far ahead so units can start getting ready, but circumstances may change that may cause a change of plans. It's like with everything else, first you plan, then review the plan, then recalculate until it's time to start packing suitcases.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Dignaga You need to stop with your incessent lying. If you were in the military as you allege, you know that nothing happens quickly with paperwork. So Walz retiring in May would mean that the paperwork was filed long before that.
Walz has said that he decided to retire and run for Congress. And indeed, Walz filed his paperwork with the FEC in early February:
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/112/25038731112/25038731112.pdf
He officially retired in May to continue his campaign. According to records by the National Guard, the 1st Battalion of the 125th Field Artillery received an alert order on July 14, 2005, – two months after Walz retired. The mobilization order came in August and the unit mobilized in October.
Stop attacking someone who served his country for 24 years before continuing to serve his country in Congress.
Walz has said that he decided to retire and run for Congress. And indeed, Walz filed his paperwork with the FEC in early February:
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/112/25038731112/25038731112.pdf
He officially retired in May to continue his campaign. According to records by the National Guard, the 1st Battalion of the 125th Field Artillery received an alert order on July 14, 2005, – two months after Walz retired. The mobilization order came in August and the unit mobilized in October.
Stop attacking someone who served his country for 24 years before continuing to serve his country in Congress.
ElwoodBlues · M
@windinhishair That is so fact filled and well written that I am STEALING IT!!!
P.S. I dug up the following:
P.S. I dug up the following:
April 2004: Walz returns to Minnesota with the 1/125th after a year-long deployment as part of Operation Enduring Freedom in Turkey and Europe. Walz was stationed at Vicenza, Italy, where the unit pulled guard duty on friendly military bases, which may have been back-fill duty for active duty units deployed to Afghanistan. He was promoted to command sergeant major of the battalion soon after returning.
So, Walz did in fact deploy overseas, and did carry a gun in defense of a base. Yes, it was in a friendly location; still he deployed overseas and carried a weapon.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues You are more than welcome to all the factual information you wish. It is despicable what the Trump Cult is trying to do to Walz. It is like what they did to John Kerry, who was a war hero until the Reich-wing turned it into something else. These people have no shame.
@windinhishair John Kerry was no more of a war hero than me. He just showed up, which is more than many, but still, he wasn't exactly medal of honor material.
Vance likewise just showed up. It wasn't his fault, he was sent to a Disneyland base in Iraq (Al Asad, had more restaurants on post than Pittsburgh has) and was at his duty station. Base was sometimes targeted by indirect fire, he could of died, but only way he would of seen combat is if he had gone AWOL. His job didn't require him to leave the wire. Unlike Vance, who's job would of required him to leave a few times a week on a mission, with him in command with a platoon sized element. But he would of been allowed to hand pick his men.
Vance likewise just showed up. It wasn't his fault, he was sent to a Disneyland base in Iraq (Al Asad, had more restaurants on post than Pittsburgh has) and was at his duty station. Base was sometimes targeted by indirect fire, he could of died, but only way he would of seen combat is if he had gone AWOL. His job didn't require him to leave the wire. Unlike Vance, who's job would of required him to leave a few times a week on a mission, with him in command with a platoon sized element. But he would of been allowed to hand pick his men.
@windinhishair Walz took off the second he found out he would deploy to a warzone. Kerry easily could of ran to Canada but didn't. Admittedly Vance had a easy job, but it was one Congress provided a slot for and he enlisted for that position, and did go to a place that did get hit with indirect fire. People did die, not many, but it happened.
@windinhishair My politics is the prohibition party. I'm the only one here. You are projecting.
@JimboSaturn Where am I wrong?
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